NHS GP referring to “people with a uterus”

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My local GP surgery has been organising talks and events regarding endometriosis. They recently hosted an event which was open to sufferers and their friends and family - fair enough.

Most of the literature and social media posts from my surgery explicitly refer to women when talking about women, which is a relief.

However, I noticed they have posted a short video advertising an event in which a young male junior doctor proudly declares “endometriosis can affect anyone with a uterus” and doesn’t use the word “woman” or “female” at all. This has really pissed me off.

Is this still allowed? I thought we had left this nonsense behind. I want to complain but not sure the best way to do this, or if I have any right to in the first place.

I get the impression this young male doctor is very involved in the work they are doing around endometriosis, but I haven’t attended any of the events they have hosted so can’t comment on the language used in person.

Some Women may have had them removed?

I'm a woman and I don't have a uterus. I did, it was useful when I wanted babies but became more of a liability than an asset so it went. Medical issues about a uterus don't affect me anymore.

How about saying any woman with a uterus? It’s not hard is it?

I also don’t have a uterus fwiw.

What's the difference. I'm a woman and I'm a person. I'm a woman without a uterus, I'm a person without a uterus.

I'm not sure that's even a wholly accurate sentence - I had adenomyosis and I thought a big problem with endo is that hysterectomy doesn't necessarily cure it because it can cause adhesions and scarring OUTSIDE the uterus. So they are not being as inclusive as they probably think.

But surely any WOMAN without a uterus could also suffer endometriosis. I thought the whole point of endometriosis is that it's womb lining growing outside of the womb.

The difference is you can be a woman without a uterus, but if you have a uterus you can only be a woman.

It's a left over from gender politics wokeism put to bed by the court's ruling that a woman is a biologically defined entity.

Many women with severe endometriosis have symptoms that persist even after hysterectomy.

Aren't there an awful lot of women who don't know what a uterus is, making this sort of messaging actually dangerous?

Idk to me those two statements are very different "a woman without a uterus" is someone who has either undergone a pretty major surgery or has some developmental problem meaning she never had a uterus in the first place. Whereas "a person without a uterus", if we're just talking percentage terms, a person without a uterus is most likely a man with reproductive capabilities.

To me they don't seem different. I'm a person and I don't have a uterus.

If endometriosis is a problem even if you don't have a uterus it's a pointless thing to say.

Well, quite. 👍

My DD = woman with a uterus.

I am a woman without a uterus.

Exactly. Endometriosis is where the endometrial tissue has migrated to somewhere else in the body, and the immune system has not recognised that these cells are out of place and so fails to zap them. I had adhesions around one ovary and on my large intestine. I had great fun going through the PubMed database and reading about all the weird and wonderful places adhesions have been found (surgically). And once the adhesion has formed, it doesn't matter if you've had a hysterectomy, the adhesion remains, causing pain and other problems.

So this young male GP is a fucking idiot.

Yeah, I definitely know women who’ve had a hysterectomy, but still have issues with endometriosis. He’s an idiot.

What on earth do you mean, "Is this still allowed?" No, we haven't become a thought dictatorship in which people aren't allowed to choose their own words. "People with a uterus" is perfectly accurate - more so than just saying "women" as not all women have a uterus. Unless you object to the concept of women being people?

He is excluding all the women who have had their uterus removed, but still suffer. Bigot!

it is still possible to suffer symptoms if there is remaining endometrial tissue and/or ovaries are retained.

it is likely that more women fall in this category than transmen who would be excluded. Or, just use female instead and include everyone who needs to be.

It’s pretty offensive. I have severe endometriosis, as does my friend who ended up having a hysterectomy as a result. As others have said, the symptoms continued for her. At best, it’s confusing and inaccurate wording, at worst it’s reducing women to body parts they may no longer even have as a result of this condition.

I rather think that this phrase ( "people with uterus") actually dehumanises women, and turns them simply into discrete body parts. -which may suit those with transhumanist fantasies of people being thought of as disembodied heads floating around in some kind of futuristic, robotic world; one in which babies are "gestated in uterine incubators", but does't really speak to people in a way that engages them as human beings.

'people with a uterus' is trans speak used to remove the word 'women' from the sex class to which it belongs. That's why OP is upset/annoyed. Young doctor needs to consider what he is saying because only women have a uterus and (with exceptions so small as to be statistically unimportant) only women get endometriosis. So it's women with a uterus, not anyone with a uterus.

Do you believe there are men with a uterus?

Yes, but no men.

@LumenLights I recently had a letter from the NHS inviting people with cervixes for a smear test. The NHS is captured by the trans cult.

I think email your surgery and let them
know this language is excluding women with poor literacy and poor english. Also women without uteruses. It would be better to say endometriosis can affect all women, as it can never affect men.
More inclusive and factually accurate.

Indeed. So it's a problematic description in more ways than one.

What's "more inclusive" about explicitly excluding trans men?