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Birmingham Pride Withdrawal

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ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:09

The UK legal system has become so compromised that an ambulance service showing up at Pride with LGBTQ+ people is now treated as a breach of “political impartiality”.

Public solidarity with LGBTQ+ people has been recast as a partisan act.

We're already 2nd worst score for LGBTQ+ rights out of all of Western Europe (worst for transgender rights) and stuff like this moves the needle further into the red. 😡

Birmingham Pride Withdrawal
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Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:17

Are you aware of how many gay and lesbian people don't like Pride events being carried out in their name? A uniformed public service must, by law, be seen to be completely neutral.

Since trans activism took over LGBTQ+ campaigning, it no longer speaks for the entire community of LGBTQ+ people. It is the extremes of trans activism which has resulted in this ban and the Police one.

The legal system is far from compromised, it is finally being put back on the right track after years of being told how to behave by Stonewall.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/05/2026 15:17

I give you Bev Jackson's response
https://x.com/bevjacksonauth/status/2057045977974915206?s=46

"If you want proof that the letters LGB and TQ+ don’t belong together, look at the “shocking news” that the UK is now the worst country in Western Europe for LGBTQ+ rights.

There are three reasons for the low position in ILGA’s ranking:

  • The UK has rejected attempts to introduce “Gender self-ID”.
  • The UK Supreme Court has clarified that the terms “sex” and “sexual orientation” in equalities legislation are based on biological sex.
  • The UK has severely curtailed sex denialist interventions (known by activists as “gender affirming care”) for minors.

All these points are good news for lesbians, gay men and bisexuals. They have consolidated our rights and the meaning of homosexuality in UK law. They protect proto-gay children and LGB teens from harmful interventions.

The people who are angry about all this are those who think you can be “born in the wrong body”, “change sex” or simply choose whether you are a man or a woman, regardless of your biological sex.

They are the people who think some lesbians have penises.
They are the people who profit from adolescents’ distress by prescribing drugs that disrupt the endocrine system.
They are the deluded parents who think they must acquiesce in children’s demands.

The UK is forging ahead in re-establishing the rights of people whose sexual orientation is towards their own sex. I am immensely proud of all we have achieved - and delighted with the UK’s low position in ILGA’s gender-crazed rankings.

Let’s stay at the bottom!"

I remember many women on here pointing out that the determination of TRA to force men into women's spaces would result in a backlash against the LGB community & we've been proved right

this is on men who won't take no for an answer because skirt go spin -

Bev Jackson (@BevJacksonAuth) on X

If you want proof that the letters LGB and TQ+ don’t belong together, look at the “shocking news” that the UK is now the worst country in Western Europe for LGBTQ+ rights. There are three reasons for the low position in ILGA’s ranking: * The UK has re...

https://x.com/bevjacksonauth/status/2057045977974915206?s=46

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/05/2026 15:17

Ah I came here to celebrate the good news...

NotAtMyAge · 20/05/2026 15:18

Of course it's lack of political impartiality. Has the ambulance service ever paraded in support of International Women's Day or any other days of solidarity with different groups besides the alphabet one?

Edited to add that we're definitely not at the bottom of the list for women's rights, far from it, but of course that doesn't count as far as you're concerned.

Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:18

You talk about not having rights in this country. What rights do you want that you do not already have protected in law?

PoppinjayPolly · 20/05/2026 15:20

Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:18

You talk about not having rights in this country. What rights do you want that you do not already have protected in law?

The question that is never answered… seems to be the right to act with impunity?

Batties · 20/05/2026 15:20

I’d also like to know which rights you don’t have that others do? I suspect what you want is actually special treatment.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/05/2026 15:20

Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:18

You talk about not having rights in this country. What rights do you want that you do not already have protected in law?

I will eat my pink frilly bonnet if you ever get a proper answer to this question 😳

PoppinjayPolly · 20/05/2026 15:21

PoppinjayPolly · 20/05/2026 15:20

The question that is never answered… seems to be the right to act with impunity?

With the caveat of constant victimhood?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/05/2026 15:22

I read that statement as talking about staff formally participating / marching in their uniforms, not working providing emergency medical cover?

Numerous organisations (including the police) have had to withdraw from Pride as it has changed from its original celebration of LGB pride to a kink fest with a rather nasty streak of anti lesbian sentiment and demands for the removal of women's rights.
Few organisations can now take the reputational risk of unthinkingly supporting a biased political movement. Especially given recent revelations about the type of men involved - see Stephen Ireland, now jailed for the rape of a 12 year old boy who used his position as chair of Surrey pride to access chuldren and schools:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07dre35eylo

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/05/2026 15:22

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/05/2026 15:22

I read that statement as talking about staff formally participating / marching in their uniforms, not working providing emergency medical cover?

Numerous organisations (including the police) have had to withdraw from Pride as it has changed from its original celebration of LGB pride to a kink fest with a rather nasty streak of anti lesbian sentiment and demands for the removal of women's rights.
Few organisations can now take the reputational risk of unthinkingly supporting a biased political movement. Especially given recent revelations about the type of men involved - see Stephen Ireland, now jailed for the rape of a 12 year old boy who used his position as chair of Surrey pride to access chuldren and schools:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07dre35eylo

I do believe it will be ALL public organisations 'cos they will get jumped on otherwise.

coulditbeme2323 · 20/05/2026 15:23

Brilliant news, thank you for this.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/05/2026 15:25

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/05/2026 15:22

I do believe it will be ALL public organisations 'cos they will get jumped on otherwise.

Brighton Council will be sad.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/05/2026 15:32

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:09

The UK legal system has become so compromised that an ambulance service showing up at Pride with LGBTQ+ people is now treated as a breach of “political impartiality”.

Public solidarity with LGBTQ+ people has been recast as a partisan act.

We're already 2nd worst score for LGBTQ+ rights out of all of Western Europe (worst for transgender rights) and stuff like this moves the needle further into the red. 😡

How is that the fault of the “UK legal system” exactly?

Batties · 20/05/2026 15:35

Imagine thinking that paramedics not walking in a parade is a human rights violation

lcakethereforeIam · 20/05/2026 15:38

I'm just posting because I'm genuinely curious to see if the OP comes back.

I think there was an article about this on BBC news. It was full of poor mes from partisan organisations. Hang on a sec. I'll go look for it....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkpe2epz6do

though they did print this, possibly issued through clenched teeth,

In a statement from its executive board, the service said it had not taken the decision "lightly", but had received legal advice that participating as a public body could breach "political impartiality".

Eta. I suspect they will take no action against any staff member who wishes to participate in their own time and in their own clothes. It's not like they'll, to pluck an example from thin air, hunt them down if they should like a few tweets on a private, anonymous twiX account, drive them to attempt suicide and then fire them.

People marching in the 2024 Birmingham Pride parade, through the city centre, Many are carrying rainbow flags and some are blowing whistles.

West Midlands Ambulance Service will not participate in Pride

West Midlands Ambulance Service says its decision is guided by "political impartiality" concerns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkpe2epz6do

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:39

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coulditbeme2323 · 20/05/2026 15:40

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Don't hate either - but trans are dangerous.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 20/05/2026 15:42

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:09

The UK legal system has become so compromised that an ambulance service showing up at Pride with LGBTQ+ people is now treated as a breach of “political impartiality”.

Public solidarity with LGBTQ+ people has been recast as a partisan act.

We're already 2nd worst score for LGBTQ+ rights out of all of Western Europe (worst for transgender rights) and stuff like this moves the needle further into the red. 😡

from PP
this is on men who won't take no for an answer because skirt go spin -

Yup. OP, welcome to our world. You'll just have to get used to it. #WallofSad

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/05/2026 15:42

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Love you bro

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:45

Batties · 20/05/2026 15:35

Imagine thinking that paramedics not walking in a parade is a human rights violation

You've rather missed the point, haven't you?

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Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:50

lcakethereforeIam · 20/05/2026 15:38

I'm just posting because I'm genuinely curious to see if the OP comes back.

I think there was an article about this on BBC news. It was full of poor mes from partisan organisations. Hang on a sec. I'll go look for it....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkpe2epz6do

though they did print this, possibly issued through clenched teeth,

In a statement from its executive board, the service said it had not taken the decision "lightly", but had received legal advice that participating as a public body could breach "political impartiality".

Eta. I suspect they will take no action against any staff member who wishes to participate in their own time and in their own clothes. It's not like they'll, to pluck an example from thin air, hunt them down if they should like a few tweets on a private, anonymous twiX account, drive them to attempt suicide and then fire them.

Edited

Any member of a uniformed service is free to attend Pride marches out of uniform.

It is the Services which are not participating in the parades, not the employees of those services in their own time.

Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:51

Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:18

You talk about not having rights in this country. What rights do you want that you do not already have protected in law?

Still waiting.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/05/2026 15:54

Imdunfer · 20/05/2026 15:51

Still waiting.

I don't think you'll get answer #sadtimes

Batties · 20/05/2026 15:56

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:45

You've rather missed the point, haven't you?

You haven’t made an actual point.