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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shelagh Fogarty addressing the Andy Burnham issue

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:06

...on LBC now.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:07

AB: You have to respect the SC judgment and make sure the law is followed.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:08

AB: Women shouldn't have popped champagne corks when the judgment came in

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murasaki · 20/05/2026 14:10

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:08

AB: Women shouldn't have popped champagne corks when the judgment came in

Why on earth not!

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:12

murasaki · 20/05/2026 14:10

Why on earth not!

Well, exactly! And why shouldn't they have done that, says Shelagh. They deserved it! So they celebrated! What are they, the witches of Eastwick??!

She's great.

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NoisyBuilder · 20/05/2026 14:13

murasaki · 20/05/2026 14:10

Why on earth not!

#bekind

Some men felt sad that the case isn't go their way, and women (as the emotional support animals) should be sadder that the men are sad, than happy for themselves.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:14

Shelagh: Trans people should have what they need. But not at the expense of biological women.

Just to be clear, she's not interviewing AB. She's commenting on what he said and the issues around it.

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SirChenjins · 20/05/2026 14:14

murasaki · 20/05/2026 14:10

Why on earth not!

Because women should never, ever, ever celebrate when the laws that protect their spaces are upheld and made clear - because to do so risks hurting the feelings of men and those who believe men have the right to do whatever they like, whenever they like, wherever they like.

Silly goose - you shouldn't even have to ask!

murasaki · 20/05/2026 14:15

NoisyBuilder · 20/05/2026 14:13

#bekind

Some men felt sad that the case isn't go their way, and women (as the emotional support animals) should be sadder that the men are sad, than happy for themselves.

Thats true, it's the mark of a big green meanie to celebrate nominally getting our stuff back at the expense of #sadtimes for some peculiar men.

Mea culpa!

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 20/05/2026 14:15

14:03:17 starts at

TheseWordsAreMine · 20/05/2026 14:20

Seems Andy has the same view as Keir.

Some women can have a penis.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:21

Shelagh: Andy is right to say we need a new social consensus, but this SHOULD NOT be at the expense of women and girls having to make themselves smaller to accommodate that.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:25

"Katie" in Edinburgh obviously has a very bad cold judging by that very deep voice...

Caller tries to make a race comparison.
Shelagh's having none of it!
Tells the caller they have rights already, and so do women.
Sorry caller, it's the law. It's not an attack on you personally. It's the law.
Caller disappears.

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TheseWordsAreMine · 20/05/2026 14:25

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:25

"Katie" in Edinburgh obviously has a very bad cold judging by that very deep voice...

Caller tries to make a race comparison.
Shelagh's having none of it!
Tells the caller they have rights already, and so do women.
Sorry caller, it's the law. It's not an attack on you personally. It's the law.
Caller disappears.

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I think Katie has 9lbs of swinging meat.

Filhote · 20/05/2026 14:27

Shelagh is awesome 🤩

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:28

Filhote · 20/05/2026 14:27

Shelagh is awesome 🤩

She's taking absolutely NO SHIT today

She's so articulate and clear, such an asset to us

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 20/05/2026 14:30

I saw the video of AB this morning talking about this and just rolled my eyes and sighed. They are all so very, fucking annoying. So sure they’re right to give away the rights of people whose sex they DO NOT SHARE. Would they be so glib with the rights of minority groups I wonder, or with peoples religion or disability? Or is it just women they couldn’t give a shit about?

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/05/2026 14:32

Shelagh is fab
Ring in! 0345 6060973

MassiveWordSalad · 20/05/2026 14:33

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:08

AB: Women shouldn't have popped champagne corks when the judgment came in

Oh do fuck off, Andy. I suppose the ladies should have quietly gone home and got on with tea before their husbands got home.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:34

The phone-in has paused for Wes Streeting's resignation speech. Skip to the end, Wes! We want to get back to Shelagh.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/05/2026 14:35

Ring in @GreyskySexRealistsky !

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:37

MassiveWordSalad · 20/05/2026 14:33

Oh do fuck off, Andy. I suppose the ladies should have quietly gone home and got on with tea before their husbands got home.

Just to clarify: that was from a clip of a previous interview with Shelagh's colleague so it wasn't something AB said today - but it was still a ridiculous thing to say at any point in time! As if women weren't going to celebrate!

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:39

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/05/2026 14:35

Ring in @GreyskySexRealistsky !

Edited

Honestly, I couldn't speak on air!

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MassiveWordSalad · 20/05/2026 14:41

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:37

Just to clarify: that was from a clip of a previous interview with Shelagh's colleague so it wasn't something AB said today - but it was still a ridiculous thing to say at any point in time! As if women weren't going to celebrate!

Ah missed that bit! I take it back for now then, but I’ll probably have to tell him to fuck off sooner or later 🤣

GreyskySexRealistsky · 20/05/2026 14:42

MassiveWordSalad · 20/05/2026 14:41

Ah missed that bit! I take it back for now then, but I’ll probably have to tell him to fuck off sooner or later 🤣

No need to take it back - your response remains valid!

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/05/2026 14:42

You do brilliantly on here! If we don't contact the programme they think we're not bothered and it gets dominated by the sad- voiced men