I transitioned into a man - then changed my mind. Now the trans 'cult' that groomed me into changing sex has hounded me out of TWO cities

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https://www.dailymail.com/lifestyle/article-15817599/Philippa-Roberts-detransition-man-woman.html

I've met this lady in real life - good to see her story making the headline news!

This is why surgery and testosterone (and the equivalent for the other way) should not be given at such a young age! She now has to live with the lasting effects of testosterone.

It’s especially stupid to do it to girls and young women as there’s no real reason to do it so early. It’s based on what might be best for men to hide their real sex. Male puberty is hard to hide but females who take testosterone later in life still grow a beard etc and can usually pass easier.

It’s frightening just how cult like this behaviour is - excommunicating heretics and apostates

When I first looked at the photo before reading, I thought the story was going to be about a man that transitioned into a woman, I made that judgement based on her appearance which now I realise that’s not the case she was actually born a woman it makes the whole thing sad. It shouldn’t be allowed so young

It really is.

We need more people like her telling their stories. I believe it is very much like a cult, brainwashing people who are deeply unhappy/autistic/potential abuse victims. She looks beautiful now-I hope she finds happiness.

Isn't it an awful story. And there are so many of them as we've allowed children to be gaslit and caught up in this dystopian belief

So she has gone from being leading member of the trans cult to attending Tommy Robinson’s Unite The Kingdom rally in London? She seems to have an attraction for extremist groups of whatever ilk. While I believe in supporting detransitioners, they have to take responsibility for the decisions they make

Indeed, and the whole story is disingenuous - she was ousted from the trans community for sharing extremist right wing views, not for detransitioning. But of course that wouldn't serve the narrative so it's glossed over.

This might shock some people, but calling someone a RW grifter who looks like a man while they're still struggling with themselves and refusing to listen to them only gives them the very few support systems.

People are fucking vile when you detransition, especially if you're FTM, it's disgusting and leaves you feeling like your skin's been scoured off your body by the people who draped it over your shoulders. You're left naked and ridiculed for the gentlest push back, and the only people who WILL listen are those with an agenda.

This is entirely a problem of their own making. Stop responding to dentransitioners as problems to be shut up, accept they didn't exist when gatekeeping medicalization of trans care occurred, and they'll stop turning to the only people listening to them.

You lose EVERYONE when you express the slightest doubt. You have to apologize and apologize and apologize and you're still dunked on by mental toddlers who mock you with idiot silly hurhur memes, and have zero medical or mental health care. ZERO. As in get ready to be fired as a patient and have NO ONE who knows what to do about your body.

You and people like you did this. You are the radicalizing agents.

I was fired as a patient for not wanting to medicalize. In a delicate and uncomfortable mental health situation that I knew HRT wouldn't help, and starting to question things. When I expressed this, I was told, explicitly, that I would kill myself and the clinic made me sign papers stating that I wouldn't, despite never expressing suicidality.

Wow people really do strategically use deletions on this site.
Just going to leave this here - much briefer this time. One can't insist on the significance of the law for everyone else while not calling out those who affiliate with lawbreakers themselves. There may be a tragic backstory - which may explain but not excuse the affiliation.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who calls himself “Tommy Robinson,” has multiple criminal convictions including assault, mortgage fraud, contempt of court, harassment, and passport fraud offences. He has served several prison sentences and has repeatedly been involved in legal cases linked to public order incidents and breaches of court restrictions.

It would help if you were more truthful yourself. This is what the article says about why the genderists turned on her:

she posted on Instagram, noting the Cambridge Dictionary had expanded its definition of ‘woman’ to include ‘an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been considered to have a different sex at birth’. Philippa said if biological men could be women, there was no point being transgender. Why try to change your sex or gender identity if you already are that identity by definition? ‘I knew there’d be a backlash,’ says Philippa. There was. Her followers initially assumed her account had been hacked. Then, she says, accusations of transphobia began to fly. People were told not to read what she was posting. In the words of one post, it was ‘dangerous’.

Or if you stand by your comment, can you explain how this is a 'right wing view'?

Is it that questioning the trans narrative automatically makes you 'right wing'? What do you think 'right wing' means?

For starters, right wing trans people exist - to take two very different examples : fascist Della Aleksander and the Margaret Thatcher fan and former UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire.

So, a particular attitude around trans is not a defining property of being right/left wing or not.

The issues around child and young adult transition - I don't think can be reduced to a simple right wing / left wing dichotomy either. I'm not any kind of expert around trans issues in general, and especially not regarding young people. So I wouldn't want to issue any kind of pronouncement about what young people, their families and the professionals either should or should not be doing.

However the specific political areas that I personally have a problem are alluded to in the following paragraphs

" Angry, Philippa threw herself into the networks she had been building since meeting Keen-Minshull. She left behind the progressive thinking that told her she could change sex and now aligns herself with Keen-Minshull’s politics.

On X, she recently retweeted Keen-Minshull’s statement, ‘Islam is incompatible with women’s rights’, and caused a stir while being photographed for this piece, when she announced she would be attending Tommy Robinson’s Unite The Kingdom rally in London. "

So by choosing to attend a rally organised by a known rabble rouser and habitual criminal - yes I'd be prepared to describe that as working with the morally unacceptable face of the far right.

Interesting to see TRAs still hounding this brave woman through insinuations and smears on MN. We see you.

Great post @MohavePenstemon
I’m sorry for what you’ve gone through.

"Right wing women are women." ~ KJK

This woman deserves women's rights and women-only spaces. Her political opinions and who she associates with don't alter that.

It looks like she fell in with the far-right after questioning the genderist narrative and hence being excommunicated from what she thought had been her community. Another case of "the left abandoned me".

More power to you. I hope you are doing better and have a good support system around you.

Plenty people here are happy to listen if you need it, and we're not really that bad even though people say that we are the viper pit hyenas from hell.

The anti women brigade will throw anything they can at women who speak about reality and stand up for safeguarding the young, along with those who speak about the harm transitioning has done. Look at what's thrown at all those courageous women and men in the NHS, the civil service, universities (any of the recent court cases / tribunals will do) by supporters of such an intolerant, McCarthyist cult

Women have been discussing our political differences for generations. Andrea Dworkin said that:
“Feminism is a political practice of fighting male supremacy on behalf of women as a class, including all the women you don’t like, including all the women you don’t want to be around, including all the women who use to be your best friends whom you don’t want anything to do with any more. It doesn’t matter who the individual women are.” -

And of course, in the Female Eunuch, Germaine Greer summed up what we see played out on this thread and so many others on here::
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them"

The GC movement and the far right caught kissing behind the bike shed once again.

Colour me shocked.

These detransitioners really push TRA buttons, don't they? Do I hear carefully constructed, but ultimately futile, narratives being shattered by these brave women and men?

Do we get to do this whenever another prominent online TRA gets arrested for a sex crime, or does it just apply to tangentially related people who disagree with you?

Trans activists support allowing kids to have bodily autonomy, and so do conservatives in America who think the best place for a teen girl is pregnant in her husband's kitchen. That means y'all are in cahoots, right?

Oh, Iran has a lot of gender transition surgeries, so they must be funded by the same people who donate to LGBTQIA+ charities, because agree about a topic, right?

What about the hairy-legged radical feminists who tirelessly advocate for reproductive rights and Matt Freaking Walsh, they must be ideologically identical bedfellows.

What an easy, lazy, unempathetic, intellectually and morally uncurious way of viewing the world.

Thank you, you're very kind.

On X, she recently retweeted Keen-Minshull’s statement, ‘Islam is incompatible with women’s rights’, and caused a stir while being photographed for this piece, when she announced she would be attending Tommy Robinson’s Unite The Kingdom rally in London.

So she joined another cult then