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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?

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HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:39

Dear friends,

As anyone paying attention to current trans affairs knows, the anti-trans brigade like to throw around what they think is the “killer question”.

"What is a woman, then?"

These people will often engage in triumphal sneering as they further insist "Your chromosomes are what you are; XX are women and XY are men. It's science, innit?"

And as a confident trans-woman I say to these people "Absolutely! What is a woman? Great question! Let's examine that".

To begin, let's consult three definitive sources:

First, the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language.
Then, modern genetics and neurophysiology.
And finally, up to date research on brain structure in cisgender and transgender women.

First, the dictionary.
For this, let's go with the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:

Woman (noun)

  1. an adult female human being
  2. an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth

As we can see from #2, despite the recent social backlash and disproportionately loud screeching from certain murky corners of the internet, Western culture as a whole is moving toward accepting the validity of trans peoples' inner gender identity. No person with a working moral compass would consider this a bad thing.

Next, let’s summarize genetics and neurophysiology.

Modern society routinely treats all the following “XY” humans as WOMEN, however...
-You can be a woman because you have X & Y chromosomes but your body is insensitive to androgens and you have female anatomy & gender identity.
Ah, so much for the childishly simplistic “But women = XX and men = XY".
-You can be a woman with X & Y chromosomes but your Y is missing the SRY gene, so you have a female body and gender identity (yes, this is a real thing despite your denials).

People who have X & Y chromosomes, but their Y is missing the SRY gene, develop a female body.
Should we treat such people as men, in society, when they have the body of a woman, simply because simpletons insist that XY = Male?
Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes.

You can be a woman with XXY or XXXY chromosomes, giving you a male body but female brain/body map and gender identity.
-You can be a woman with XY chromosomes but a mutation called CBX2 that blocks the influence of the SRY gene.
-You can be a woman because you have 46,XY in some cells but 46,XX in other cells, or 47, XXY.

These are all valid, scientifically obervable genetic variations that highlight the "But XX = women and XY = men" mantra for the simplistic, unscientific nonsense that it is.

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.
These show that in the section of the brain that determines one’s sense of gender identity.

The brains of transgender women are almost identical to those of cisgender women.
The brains of trans men also align more with cisgender men than they do with women.

And so, to summarize

Modern science, which is how rational people resolve differences of opinion.
It is not about referring to holy books, written in pre-scientific ages past.
It is not about regurgitating simplistic, binary statements that you learnt in the 4th grade.

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

P.S. In this essay we have a summary of the cutting edge science which validates transgender womens' biologically determined, inner sense of gender identity.

As I’ve said, a rational society follows rational explanations, and doesn’t define its people via outdated religious or cultural ideas.
But beyond that, there is simply human courtesy and kindness.

It’s cruel, hateful and rude for the transphobic bigots to demand that people be forced to conform to their anti-scientific notions.

No one's life is affected negatively by honoring a transwoman as a woman, as the historical record of many trans accepting societies have shown.

Good people will see the very challenging dilemma that transwomen are in, and their natural empathy, coupled with scientific insight, will make them want to support their fellow human beings in being who they know they are.

And so, I ask all of you:

Should we as a society treat trans-women as the women their brain and neurobiology tells us they are? And, if not, why on earth wouldn’t we?

P.P.S. The image in this post is of women who have XY chromosomes, but an androgen insensitivity syndrome which causes their bodies to develop as female.
Would anyone in their right mind insist we treat them as males, simply because of their chromosomal makeup?
The bigots might, but you know you're better than that, right?

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
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Wearenotborg · 27/04/2026 17:45

Did you really type that all out? How depressing is your life? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

SixSevenShutUp · 27/04/2026 17:45

Anti-trans brigade? You reveal yourself in three words.

VictorianPlum · 27/04/2026 17:46

TLDR?

Wearenotborg · 27/04/2026 17:47

VictorianPlum · 27/04/2026 17:46

TLDR?

Blah blah blah evil women yadda yadda yadda. Reddit just dialling it in now 😀😀😀

RufustheFactualReindeer · 27/04/2026 17:48

Wearenotborg · 27/04/2026 17:45

Did you really type that all out? How depressing is your life? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I actually read it 😳 thats how depressing my life is

VictorianPlum · 27/04/2026 17:48

Wearenotborg · 27/04/2026 17:47

Blah blah blah evil women yadda yadda yadda. Reddit just dialling it in now 😀😀😀

As I suspected, thank you.

HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:48

And to anyone still on the fence, take a look - a proper look - at the first few responses.

Are these rational, intelligent, or inquisitive responses and a desire to engage? Do they seem like the kind of statements made by empathetic people? Or might they possibly, just possibly, appear to underline my opening post? 🤔

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VictorianPlum · 27/04/2026 17:49

Oh look, we're wrong again.

Oleoreoleo · 27/04/2026 17:49

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.

could you link to this research please?

WallaceinAnderland · 27/04/2026 17:50

Lol 2/10

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 27/04/2026 17:50

Only a man would have to type out such a long essay about why he's really a "woman".
🙄

Fuck all the way off.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 27/04/2026 17:51

HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:48

And to anyone still on the fence, take a look - a proper look - at the first few responses.

Are these rational, intelligent, or inquisitive responses and a desire to engage? Do they seem like the kind of statements made by empathetic people? Or might they possibly, just possibly, appear to underline my opening post? 🤔

Your opening post is very rude

you have no empathy and you appear to have no desire to engage

Instructions · 27/04/2026 17:51

This is so bad I genuinely can't decide whether it's a regular poster here doing a TRA parody, or an actual TRA who thinks they sound clever and witty

Chersfrozenface · 27/04/2026 17:51

OP, all of that in your first post, we've heard it all innumerable times before.

It was, is now, and will remain, garbled, anti-scientific, harmful balderdash.

EmpressaurusKitty · 27/04/2026 17:51

Is this AidaP’s replacement?

WallaceinAnderland · 27/04/2026 17:51

If the human race didn't know what a woman was, none of us would exist.

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 27/04/2026 17:52

Spat out my coffee at brain structures. Come ON. Our heads don't button up the back.

Wearenotborg · 27/04/2026 17:52

HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:48

And to anyone still on the fence, take a look - a proper look - at the first few responses.

Are these rational, intelligent, or inquisitive responses and a desire to engage? Do they seem like the kind of statements made by empathetic people? Or might they possibly, just possibly, appear to underline my opening post? 🤔

Nah mate. Take your sexist misogynistic claptrap elsewhere please. The grown ups are talking

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 27/04/2026 17:52

Do you mean to be so patronising?
If I were on the fence (which I’m not) you wouldn’t be doing a good job of winning me over.
As a biological woman I don’t need someone telling me what one is.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2026 17:53

Oh lord Reddit having another go are they?

sorry can't be arsed to validate your identity

men are not women

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2026 17:53

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 27/04/2026 17:52

Do you mean to be so patronising?
If I were on the fence (which I’m not) you wouldn’t be doing a good job of winning me over.
As a biological woman I don’t need someone telling me what one is.

I would play long odds that they'll yes they really did mean to be that patronising

SylvanMoon · 27/04/2026 17:53

HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:48

And to anyone still on the fence, take a look - a proper look - at the first few responses.

Are these rational, intelligent, or inquisitive responses and a desire to engage? Do they seem like the kind of statements made by empathetic people? Or might they possibly, just possibly, appear to underline my opening post? 🤔

Engage with what? Your statements do not invite intelligent debate. Nothing that you've posted is new in terms of "the debate" and we're TERFs after all: Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits.

Screamingabdabz · 27/04/2026 17:54

Mansplaining.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 27/04/2026 17:55

Oh do grow up.

99.9% of the population are wholly unambiguously one of the two sexes and can be identified pre birth. It's only difficult because men (the massive majority of whom are very unambiguously and obviously male) really, really want to be able to force women to take their clothes off. (In a single sex space, where there's lots of women and no other men, and they will have absolutely no difficulty at all in knowing which is which.)

This wankery is so 2018.

Beeswacks · 27/04/2026 17:55

I have no desire to engage on this topic with someone who thinks men can be women.
Gender and gender stereotypes are not the same as sex.

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