To be fed up with the WASPIs' renewed campaign?

[Jane379]

I sympathise with people who genuinely did not know but hiw many was this? And how would we know who to compensate even if the money were available?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/waspi-latest-compensation-legal-challenge-pension-b2976014.html

Well, how would you feel if you'd had tens of thousands of pounds stolen from your expected government pension, AND being made to work and extra seven years into the bargain.
Don't forget, we waspis paid towards our government pension for the whole of our working life, and it was all many of us had to keep us through our retirement, as many of us didn't for whatever reason, or couldn't afford to pay into a private pension too

They'll get nowhere. Men got a far worse deal. Shorter life expectancy yet had to work 5 years longer. I wish they would quit moaning,

So they are claiming that Reforms wins in the council elections are down to their votes ? Yeah right

Yanbu.

I am the first to advocate for women but i knew all about this / the changes and i was 10 when this was announced.

Will reform give them anything ?
Labour took the cause up once, but once they saw how much it’s going to cost , they soon backed off.

I’m waspi age but cannot understand the waspi argument. Earlier pensions for women were unfair to start with and the change was announced well in advance. You can’t demand equal pay on one hand and better pensions on the other.

I’m the right age to be a WASPI woman and they get on my nerves. We were told well in advance. The only people I feel a bit sorry for were those born in 1954 who had a sudden unexpected change.

I am another who cannot see how they were not aware of the forthcoming changes.
I know it has been through law but as someone whose own state retirement date was moved back 7yrs, I still can't fathom how they missed it when it was on the news, in newspapers (remember them?) etc when it was first announced.

It is all very well saying that when they entered the world of work, they were told that the retirement age was 60 so why was it allowed to be changed, but that frankly rather naive. Things change all the time so what was the government supposed to do, make the change for all current school levers and in the meantime (for the next 45yrs or so), keep the retirement age at 60?

I genuinely do not understand how they claim they didn’t know.

I’m this age group as well and it was all over the news at the time . I remember being at work and my colleagues and all shrugging and saying I guess we will have to work longer before we get our pensions then. My then teenage daughters knew all about it too.

when i started working I expected to stop and get a pension at 60. I’ll be lucky if I get one at 70 now. Not complaining because I know it’s unsustainable. Where oh where do they think this magic money will come from?! I knew about it, it was everywhere and I was a generally feckless young person at the time. It just takes one person to say ‘I didn’t get that message..,’ for all these pests to jump on the bandwagon!! The world is burning and there’s no cash!! Deal

So you never worked before the sex discrimination/ equal pay legislation, you never worked before employers had to offer contributions into a work place pension?

Many These women were already hugely disadvantaged by having earned less than men and never having a private pension.

I'm not in the UK but I had a penfriend who was one of them. I stopped corresponding with her, it got so boring.

How about the money coming from the billion pound migrant budget?
Let’s import thousands of men who have entirely different cultural norms from our own and pay for their accommodation, food etc, instead of taking care of our own citizens who have paid into the pot for decades?

Now that’s an odd take.

How about if we stop paying for migrants and have all of this spare money. Where should the WASPI women’s claim be to compensation sit on the government’s list of priorities?

I'm in that WASPI age range and would get a payout if they win but think this campaign is pure greed. The number of women who were genuinely impacted is small, the changes were widely publicised and I fail to see how anyone could have missed it. I saw an article from one woman complaining that she retired and only then found she couldn't get her state pension for years, that takes a special kind of wilful ignorance to retire without checking!

I'm also sick of the moaning about how hard we had things. Yes, some things were harder but some things are harder for young people now; every generation has its own challenges

I’m that age. Those that say they didn’t know about it weren’t paying attention.

I’m that age group. It’s been well known for over 30 years. I simply do not believe anyone who says they didn’t know.

They are trying it on. There is no way to prove who saw what. It was widely advertised.

that generation have done incredibly well - like no other really- out of this country.

Why are you fed up with it? What's to be fed up about?

But we all have to work that extra 7 years, we all pay towards the government pension and there's plenty that don't have a private pension. You're no different to most.

The government need to draw a line under this and just say a firm 'no'. Even if the country was flush with cash, it would be unreasonable but under the current circumstances, the last thing we need is to be paying out billions of tax payers money to people who, for the main part, should have known about and planned for the change.

A someone who worked in the pensions industry, yes I am totally fed up with their antics.

The change was publicly announced and from an actuarial perspective it doesn't go far enough. The State pension age should really be 70 or possibly even 72, given that the underlying assumption was it would usually be paid for 15 years.

Their demands are based on greed, nothing else.

"Well, how would you feel if you'd had tens of thousands of pounds stolen from your expected government pension, AND being made to work and extra seven years into the bargain.
Don't forget, we waspis paid towards our government pension for the whole of our working life, and it was all many of us had to keep us through our retirement, as many of us didn't for whatever reason, or couldn't afford to pay into a private pension too."

Hyperbole. If not actually stuff and nonsense.

Nobody "pays towards a government pension" pensions come out of current taxation. Unlike a private pension scheme you have no ownership of a State pension, you get one on the terms the Government lays down from time-to-time.

There has been no "WASPI injustice" and I trust no Government (of any party) would be so weak as to give into this rubbish.

Well, you can if you earned unequal pay, and weren’t allowed to pay into an occupational pension for most of your working life. There is still a gender pay gap now, but when 50’s born women (not all are members of WASPI) started working there was legal discrimination against women. That wasn’t swept away by the Equality Act.