To think manners on public transport have declined drastically?

[Carlie97]

I'm on a coach. One woman has her legs up on the seat. Ok, the soles of her feet are hanging over the edge just about but it's a short journey. Is it that difficult to sit upright for that short a time?

The woman behind me has been on a call for the past half an hour with the person on the other end of the call heard easily. She's not overly loud but otherwise the coach would be silent which is a rarity.

I agree with you.

Shall we play public transport twat bingo?

Last week I saw someone eating a family size bag of crisps on a bus, dropped a load on the floor and then left the packet behind.

and don’t get me started on music eithout earphones

Yes. I am currently on a train and there are a load of drunk people shouting. The two behind me are singing and kicking the back of my seat. Completely oblivious to the impact on all the other passengers.

I got the train on Monday and didn’t find this at all. Train was very busy, all seats taken and some needed to move as others had allocated seats - all done very politely.

Lots of pleases / excuses me / thank yous when people moved - so I can’t agree with this one.

It's normally not to bad. But last year on a bus a carer was on the phone, loud speaker and the entire bus heard to give confidential information about her client to whoever was on the phone (and the bus passengers)

No they’ve always been shit.

The calls on loudspeaker really get to me, as does the playing of music without AirPods/earphones. Drives me nuts.

My DM was on a 5 hour coach ride a couple of years ago and the woman in front of her had a phone call (on loud speaker) from the moment they boarded, to the second she got off!

I absolutely despise people who are scrolling through the reels on the full blast, it’s just so incredibly rude.

Can I introduce you to Northern Rail?

Where do I begin:

• Ranting lunatics I fully expect to see on the news at some point for attacking a passer-by with a machete
• People watching TikTok on full blast, even worse if they're just watching the same video on a loop
• People having phone calls where they are yelling at the other person, who is also yelling, while being on speaker
• No headphones and loud music
• Shopping bags taking up seats
• Eating stinky food

Sounds typical of the type of person that uses public transport.
😉😁.

Bring back part of every long distance train service having compartment coaches. Much better than a quiet coach.

Didn't they get rid of them after that woman was murdered inside one and no-one noticed until the next station? (One of the reasons anyway)

I don't remember these in the Uk but in other countries. They were brilliant, especially the opposite seats you could extend for an overnight train.

I've just been in Japan and the culture is so different there. Everyone follows the same public transport etiquette to be polite, not impose on others, to not take phone calls, to not speak loudly. Indeed, hardly anyone talks at all, and if they do it's very softly. It was so grating when some tourists from a certain country were present, as they were so loudly spoken everywhere they went, and we're oblivious to the appropriate way to conduct themselves (you can all guess which country!) There are no bins anywhere, but at the same time no litter. Indeed, the Japanese are similarly respectful of not imposing on others in any public situation. We were in some huge crowds to view the cherry blossoms, but there was no pushing or shoving, people waited their turn calmly, and people were quiet.

People would do well to learn from such cultures. There is no reason why other countries can't be the same, if only people would be more respectful. When you experience life this way, it's just so much more pleasant. I miss it!

People putting their bags on seats when the train is full and loads of people are standing and then glare at you when you ask to sit down. People (usually young men/lads) who sprawl across the seats.

Why do people have loudspeaker phone calls? I do not understand it. I only do when I need to read something off my phone screen. I just hold the phone to my ear. Are we not supposed to do that and I missed the advice?

any noise out of a mobile is offensive to
listen unless it’s your own device.

thankfully not a public transport user

I hated those - felt so unsafe using them when travelling as a single woman

Agree. I just cannot understand why people aren’t embarrassed to be playing videos / music / phone calls out loud for all to hear. What makes them think it’s ok? How can they be that self absorbed…I can’t get my head around it.

Totally agree. DH and I were on the train on Friday night going into London and a group of about 6 late teen/early 20s guys got on. Shouting across the aisles at each other and generally being obnoxious. We could cope with that until one in front of us starting clipping his toe nails 🤮

When did it become normal to thank your driver on the bus when you're getting off and for them to completely ignore you've spoken? I still find it really weird XD

People letting their dogs sit on the bus seat next to them <vom>

Yes, and if you point that out, they tell you that dogs are better than humans! Next time I get that answer, I'll suggest that they (the human) sits on the floor and the dog sits on the seat.

You’ve only got to watch Agatha Christie’s ‘The 4.50 From Paddington’.*
I well remember such trains. IIRC there were ‘ladies only’ compartments, and there were certainly ‘ladies only’ waiting rooms. With fires in winter!

*I’ve often wondered how she got the idea. Presumably from being on a train after dark, when another passed close by, all lit up, and she thought ‘What if…?’

Just been on a train where an elderly Rastafarian was playing loud reggae on his phone. He got on and was on a call, very polite. As soon as he got off call, he was a dick. There were about 15 people nearby, only one woman asked him to turn it down a bit. He smiled, turned it up instead. He was trying to catch people’s eye to dare challenge him. Truly every demographic has withdrawn from the social contract.

The playing music/reels/movies etc on a phone on speaker, in a carriage full of others, is mind-bogglingly self-centred and uncouth.

I often wonder just how anybody can so under-socialised that they think it's ok to impose their noise on others.

For some, it seems to be a deliberate challenge, like the guy described above ('you can't tell me what to do! I don't take orders from no-one.' type attitude). But for others they seem genuinely oblivious. Is this seen as acceptable in some other parts of the world? So people from those areas think it's acceptable? I don't know, but I do wonder. I'd prefer to know that than feel that a significant proportion of society are just profoundly anti-social, as` that's a bit scary.

If I'm with others, I have been known to remark loudly along the lines of: "how kind of the gentleman to share his music with everyone in the carriage". But it seems to go over most of their heads.