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AIBU for banning in laws from grandchild after nasty comments & refusing to apologise?

145 replies

Bonnie3944 · 04/01/2024 15:49

Iv made a previous post about this but there’s been updates since. for context, MIL & FIL we’re going on holiday over Xmas, we got into a huge fight because she had asked us to visit before Xmas so DS could open his Xmas present early as they wouldn’t be able to see him open it on Xmas day. She picked a day & said it was the only day she was free, DP changed his shift with someone at work so he would be available at her request. We all agreed on the day & time, the day comes & she keeps delaying us with later times, example (“just got a few errands, can we change it to 4pm? just got to pop here to grab something, can we make it 6 instead? Stuck in traffic, will be about half 6”) DP & I were annoyed but waited it out, got to half 6 & we got delayed again with “only just got to your nans so will need to be later”, at this point DP said it’s getting too late now, DS would be asleep soon. DP calls MIL & tells her & essentially tells her it’s too late now & we have waited all day already, MIL starts guilt tripping him with “so now I can’t see my grandson till after the holidays?”, I jumped in (I admit I probably shouldn’t of, it should of been between DP & MIL but I was just annoyed & wound up in the heat of the moment & hearing her using DS to guilt trip DP only wound me up more) & basically said “You had your chance to see him today but you have been unreliable & keep failing to stick to the plans YOU set, if you knew you were going to be busy you should of said so before your son changed his shifts at your demand” she starts mouthing off & tells me to “stop barking” tells DP to “put a muzzle on it” & “son get it on a leash would you” & “son would you tell it to shut up”, constantly referring to me as ‘IT’ & a dog & continuously trying to shush me, to which DP tells her not to talk to me like that & tells her he’s going to hang up if she carry’s on, she gets pissy with DP for backing me up & hangs up on him.

We’ve been no contact since & myself & DP had ultimately decided to cut all ties with them after MIL’s vulgar comments & made the decision to keep DS away from MIL, up until today where FIL messaged DP & just asked “so when do we get the see DGS then”, DP decided the best course of action would be to ignore them because it would only stir things up again & we didn’t want another argument. FIL kept messaging asking DP “why are you ignoring me? Why aren’t you answering me?”, DP responded saying “you can see DS once mom has apologised & learns to respect his parents” FIL then said “you know how stubborn your mom is, she’ll never apologise, you can’t seriously ban us from seeing him, OP (myself) needs to learn to let things go” DP hasn’t responded cause it’s just winding us up all over again.
I can’t help but feel like surely if they loved their son & grandson enough they’d be willing to apologise at the risk of losing their relationship with them.
Am I being unreasonable to ban in laws from seeing DS after such vulgar comments & then refusing to apologise for said comments? How can I forgive someone who hasn’t apologised? Do they have any legal rights for contact with DS?

OP posts:
Michellebops · 04/01/2024 15:57

How awful, 😞
No they don't have any rights.
You are doing the right thing.

Even if she apologised. I would still keep at arms length.

Your child doesn't need to know how his toxic grandmother feels about his mum

TheMixedGirl · 04/01/2024 15:57

They are DPs parents let him handle it. He says no then no.

Go NC sounds best

GreatGateauxsby · 04/01/2024 16:02

If it were my MIL she could get fucked.

Your DP has your back… let him handle this.

they have no rights to access to your child so don’t give it another thought.

mottytotty · 04/01/2024 16:08

Fucking hell, I wouldn’t talk to my worst enemy the way MIL talked to you.

Absolutely right to go no contact.

EvilElsa · 04/01/2024 16:11

If she ever spoke about me or to me like that like fuck would she ever be seeing me again. Ever. Especially when she won't even attempt an apology.

takealettermsjones · 04/01/2024 16:15

They have no legal rights, and there is no way in hell I'd be doing a single thing for anybody who spoke to/about me in that way.

Reframe it for yourself now though - you're not 'banning them' from seeing him, you're not using DS as a weapon or punishing them/a child for an adults' squabble, or any of the stuff they will likely throw at you. You are protecting your DS from their abusive language and manipulation, and you're teaching him the important lesson that we don't have to accept being treated like that.

takealettermsjones · 04/01/2024 16:16

Can I also add that it's an absolute breath of fresh air on this website to read that your DP has your back!

TashieWoo · 04/01/2024 16:20

You are definitely not being unreasonable! I’d stay no contact for as long as possible,
especially if she has form for being vulgar, nasty and selfish.

And I wish my DP supported me like your DH has done when my MIL is horrid to me, unfortunately he is weak where she is concerned!

BotterMon · 04/01/2024 16:20

Hug your DP - what a guy! MIL is a vile person - how dare she talk to/about you like that. Why would anyone want their DC spending time with somebody so horrible?

Createausername1970 · 04/01/2024 16:23

I don't blame you for being cross and good for DH for standing up for you.

It is a difficult situation for him, they are his parents, but it is good he is making clear to them that it isn't acceptable.

Perhaps MIL needs to learn that sometimes she isn't in the right and she will have to apologise.

SapphOhNo · 04/01/2024 16:23

What's best for your DC in this scenario? Go with that.

ManateeFair · 04/01/2024 16:25

They have no legal rights and you and your DP are doing the right thing by staying away from them. I'm really glad your DP is on your side with this!

The way his parents have treated both you and him is awful.

PuddlesPityParty · 04/01/2024 16:37

grandparents do NOT have any legal rights to see your child (unless they can prove they were his main caregiver etc…)

how horrible for you OP 😔

wronginalltherightways · 04/01/2024 16:37

she starts mouthing off & tells me to “stop barking” tells DP to “put a muzzle on it” & “son get it on a leash would you” & “son would you tell it to shut up”, constantly referring to me as ‘IT’ & a dog & continuously trying to shush me, to which DP tells her not to talk to me like that & tells her he’s going to hang up if she carry’s on, she gets pissy with DP for backing me up & hangs up on him.

So FIL thinks you should 'let things go' and accept such awful treatment so they can stay in your life. Ha! I think not!

I don't think I'd even accept an apology if someone spoke to/about me like this, especially to my husband. No contact sounds like the way to go.

Cherrysoup · 04/01/2024 16:41

Speaking about you in that way, she’d never see my dc again. What she said was absolutely disgusting. She has made herself sound very nasty.

ExtraOnions · 04/01/2024 16:42

When she was saying these things to you .. were you silent on the other end, or, did you set anything back to her?
Was this a case of two angry people shouting horrible things at each other?

At the end of that day, you don’t have to have anyone in your life you don’t want to.. regardless.

Bonnie3944 · 04/01/2024 16:42

Thank you all for the responses! DP has been brilliant, although it wasn’t always like this, in the earlier days he did used to pander to her but over time of constantly been let down & disrespected (we’ve had several issues before this but never quite as bad) I think he’s finally had enough & is setting boundaries. He says he’s had this his whole life & she would never admit when she was wrong & would never take accountability for her words or actions so he would ‘just let things go’ for a quiet life when he was younger cause he ‘would never win’. FIL is very much under the thumb, constantly making excuses for her behaviour & pandering to her, would always tell DP to ‘drop the rope’ when in a disagreement with MIL. FIL would always tell DP to approach MIL after a disagreement as MIL would be too stubborn to approach DP first (even if she was at fault).

DP also knows he has the option to keep a relationship with MIL & FIL but Iv just said count myself & DS out, so DP can keep in touch & visit without us but he doesn’t want to as of right now (in time he may change his mind as they are his parents & it must be hard to cut them off) but for the moment we’re back to no contact.

OP posts:
Motnight · 04/01/2024 16:46

I remember your previous post, Op.

Grandparents and parents need to model respect for each other at the very least. Your in laws aren't doing that, and therefore shouldn't be allowed near your child.

Good luck - going NC can be very hard but it sounds as though you have made the right decision.

HelplessSoul · 04/01/2024 16:50

Your IL's are utter cunts.

That is all.

Salesarefullofcutpricesprouts · 04/01/2024 16:53

We uninvited mil from our wedding after her behaviour towards mainly me. Been 9 years op. Really is their loss. Will your ds really be missing out not being around such people? Mine isn't...

Redcar78 · 04/01/2024 16:53

I wouldn't see her again even if she did apologise tbh, you don't need people like that in your life 🤷‍♀️

topnoddy · 04/01/2024 16:55

"So when do we get to see DGS then ?"

Simple answer is "you don't"

Jessbow · 04/01/2024 16:55

Stand your ground, your OH has said what needs saying - nothing more needs to be said.

Wait for the appology if it comes it comes, if it doesnt so be it

Winnipeggy · 04/01/2024 16:56

I hope you know now you've done the right thing. You're saving your son from a lifetime of manipulation, disappointment and toxicity. You owe them nothing.

Coffeespill · 04/01/2024 17:01

OMG.

I'm glad your DP has your back she sounds awful