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In-laws refusal of a letter.

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LongstemmedRose · 11/05/2026 09:56

I’m not really sure where to put this, so I’ve added it as a chat.

My daughter is soon to be 18. She’s spoken to her boyfriend at length about a scrapbook she’d like to make, filled with cards and letters from all the people she loves and who love her. He messaged me to ask if I could help by collecting letters from her loved ones so he can add them to the scrapbook as one of her birthday gifts, which I thought was really thoughtful of him.

I messaged all of her loved ones yesterday — friends, family friends, family — basically everyone who loves her and has watched her grow and mature. Every single person agreed it was a wonderful idea and was happy to help. Some said they’d write a letter, and others said they’d do a longer birthday-style message.
I messaged my in‑laws yesterday and asked the same thing, and my MIL has point‑blank refused. Her response was: “It’s not our thing, so no!”

I’m really upset because my daughter is the eldest of the four grandchildren (two of them are mine and my husband’s) and the only girl. She has always been treated differently to the boys, and it’s very obvious that my son is the favourite grandchild. It’s hard to see, especially as my children are close in age and would have spent the same amount of time with my in‑laws.

As a bit of backstory: they stopped seeing my daughter when she was six months old and didn’t see her again until she was two. This was after a falling‑out, but they were never stopped from having a relationship with her.

They also chose not to come to our wedding, and the day before we got married my MIL posted a letter through our door telling my husband she’d never forgive him because she had “given him everything.” My husband was devastated, and it marred the day — not to mention everyone asking where they were. She made the day all about her, and it feels like she’s doing the same now. When my daughter opens her scrapbook, she will notice the absence of a letter from her grandparents, and it will just reinforce that she has always been treated differently.

To add, my FIL is an amazing man, and this will upset him greatly as he will have had no say in it. He has always been controlled by my MIL in every aspect of his life. Last week he actually lost his temper with her and shouted, which is completely out of character. She then spoke to my son about it and said she thinks he has dementia. I said I think he’s just had enough of being controlled.
Anyway, I’ve gone off on a tangent.

I love my daughter with all my heart, and she’s done nothing wrong. What do I say to her when she asks where the letter from her grandparents is? She loves them dearly and I don't want this to throw a wedge between them and they are coming to her party so she may well ask them there and then! She is autistic so doesn't always see the world in the way others might.

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AutumnLover1990 · 11/05/2026 10:02

I can see their point. I hate doing things like this. Had to do something for a relative's first birthday but a video. I find them so cringe and forced. We didn't end up doing it.

YooBlue · 11/05/2026 10:07

Loving expression needs to be spontaneous and of free will, not ‘curated’

You must have known your MIL was likely to have dug her heels in. What did you expect?

You can’t demand people to express love and for it to be authentic. If your Dd asks, just say ‘it’s not their way’.

Maybe they will write a lovely card. That’s it.

2dogsandabudgie · 11/05/2026 10:07

I hate this kind of thing too. I think you have to accept it's not to everyone's taste. Your daughter could add the birthday card they send her to the scrapbook.

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Bubblebathbefore8 · 11/05/2026 10:11

Just put the birthday card that they would send into the scrapbook, don’t make this a big thing.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 11/05/2026 10:12

God I hate this sort of performative, self indulgent stuff. Can't imagine curating a book of people telling me how much they love me. When did a birthday card cease to be enough??

GoodkneeBadKnee · 11/05/2026 10:13

I'd have said no too

UniquePinkSwan · 11/05/2026 10:14

I wouldn’t want to do it either. Not something I would do. If I did do it, it would be want they wanted to hear so wouldn’t be completely genuine

Comedycook · 11/05/2026 10:15

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 11/05/2026 10:12

God I hate this sort of performative, self indulgent stuff. Can't imagine curating a book of people telling me how much they love me. When did a birthday card cease to be enough??

I agree with this generally. But it really wouldn't hurt them to write a small note saying, we are so proud of you and love you lots.

DalmationalAnthem · 11/05/2026 10:16

Just say 'I don't know/ask them/they gave you a card, not everyone likes writing stuff like that'.
I wouldn't know what to write other than happy birthday 🤷

rwalker · 11/05/2026 10:17

Not for me

given the history I’m at a loss why you even asked her you knew how this would pan out

life’s a lot more simpler if you avoid unnecessary drama

DinnerTimeCabbageSoz · 11/05/2026 10:17

Comedycook · 11/05/2026 10:15

I agree with this generally. But it really wouldn't hurt them to write a small note saying, we are so proud of you and love you lots.

Even if (for some reason and not necessarily a reflection on the poor girl) they dont feel.that way?

Mil sounds very odd.
Mil sounds like she doesnt like women very much...whats that all about on your wedding... because a nasty woman took her baby away from her and then nasty woman had the audacity to give birth to yet another woman in to the family...

Maybe im wayyy of the mark though 🤷‍♀️

LimbOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheHoleTheHoleInTheGround · 11/05/2026 10:18

It would make more sense to scrapbook the cards she gets rather than force everyone she knows to write a letter telling her how great she is.

I know this comes from a long history with your in laws, but they aren't wrong to say no on this occasion.

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · 11/05/2026 10:18

Would FIL do her a letter/note?

Ohpleeeease · 11/05/2026 10:18

I wouldn’t want to do this either. It just feels uncomfortable to me, and surely the point of the scrapbook is for it to express people’s sincerely felt sentiments. Add their birthday card, I’m sure it will contain a heartfelt message.

As an aside, this sounds very American, like a Yearbook. I hate those too.

Witchonenowbob · 11/05/2026 10:19

Your daughter is literally saying, write nice things about me and send it too me.

It should come naturally if it’s meant!

McSpoot · 11/05/2026 10:21

I have to admit that I'd also find it annoying/difficult, and I'd wish that I didn't have to do it, but I'd do it (awkwardly).

BellaBlister · 11/05/2026 10:21

Will they send her a birthday card though? That would be enough wouldn't it. If she asks about the scrapbook be honest and say it isn't their sort of thing and don't make a big deal out of it.

Clonakilla · 11/05/2026 10:22

So they can do letters expressing feelings.

Just toxic ones.

I see.

SherbertsHerberts · 11/05/2026 10:23

I'm surprised by these replies. When did everyone get so mean spirited? It's her 18th, she wants to make a special scrapbook to look back at. In years to come it will have the handwriting and notes of affection from people who are no longer around. I think it's a lovely idea.

Surely it wouldnt hurt MIL (or anyone else saying they wouldn't do it) to write a short note saying happy 18th birthday and a couple of nice things about someone they love.

I think the MIL is being mean and unkind but I also agree with previous posters that the best thing to do would put her birthday card in there. Assuming she will send one? You can't force her to do it if she's going to be stubborn about it.

I hope your daughter has a lovely birthday, OP.

purplecorkheart · 11/05/2026 10:23

Sorry this would not be my thing and I do not think your mil is wrong in refusing to do this. She is wrong however in not giving her husband a choice as to whether he wants to take part or not.

LassiKopiano24 · 11/05/2026 10:23

Whether she is uncomfortable or not, it’s something her Granddaughter would like for a milestone birthday, surely she can take 5 mins to write a short note!

INX · 11/05/2026 10:23

She's spoken to her boyfriend 'at length' about how she wants adoring letters and messages from loved ones??

Fair enough if that's her thing but also fair enough for those who don't want to encourage it, or who feel uncomfortable with it.

If you think it's your FIL's sort of thing then speak to him separately.

Clonakilla · 11/05/2026 10:25

UniquePinkSwan · 11/05/2026 10:14

I wouldn’t want to do it either. Not something I would do. If I did do it, it would be want they wanted to hear so wouldn’t be completely genuine

You couldn’t write a few sentences of genuine love and goodwill to your grandchild? Not original, not profound, just sincere?

Really?

How extraordinary.

Almina · 11/05/2026 10:25

One of my grandmothers didn't love us. I was always completely fine with it, because my mother was really matter of fact about it. She just said, you know, your granny has problems loving people because there's something a bit wrong with her. Sometimes people have this problem, and it's best just to leave them to it.

As an adult, I can see this must actually have been very hurtful for my mother (it was her mother that was this nasty person and in fact did all kinds of crazy shit to my mum I later found out), but she never passed that on to us, so we were totally unbothered by it! We had plenty of love in our lives and we never cared about this old woman who was essentially a stranger to us.

It's probably best to be honest about things and not force performances that someone doesn't feel. Fake love is, I suspect, more damaging than honest indifference.

McSpoot · 11/05/2026 10:26

To be fair, I think that the original idea may have been to use cards/letters that she already has:

She’s spoken to her boyfriend at length about a scrapbook she’d like to make, filled with cards and letters from all the people she loves and who love her.

It's possible that it is the OP who has decided to go the extra step of asking for new/specific letters and messages (not sure if the boyfriend was asking for new ones or thinking that, perhaps, there were some old cards/letters to the daughter that were at the OP's house).