grrr asking a man to not use his phone in the quiet cartiage makes me a bitch appatently

(31 Posts)
FasterStronger Mon 25-Mar-13 13:38:14

I get on a train in the quite carriage and blokie appears to be having long conversation. Other passengers are sighing...

I ask him to continue the conversation in the vestibule. Immediately he starts calling me an f##king bitch.

I tell him he is rude and I dont care what he thinks. We do a slight squaring up. And repeat the same conversation a few times

Guard move him on. Other passengers thank me. Nice lady says I did the right thing and squeezes my shoulder.

What's wrong with male youth culture? He was so entitled. Poor young women.

I need to prepare for my meeting but will be back later.

Well done for standing up to him, But I'm not sure that one rude young man justifies the condemnation of "male youth culture".

Moominsarehippos Mon 25-Mar-13 13:43:54

He was an arse. I never fail to be amazed at people's selfishness and attitude that rules just don't apply to them. Shame no-one else backed you up, but I'm glad the guard moved him on.

Are you ok?

FasterStronger Mon 25-Mar-13 13:50:07

Moon yes, thank you.

Two good i dont mean all young men. I mean the thing that means he called me a bitch. Id have prefered wanker. He did not like my repeated defiance. Me saying 'you are rude' offended him.

ProphetOfDoom Mon 25-Mar-13 13:55:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

hairtearing Mon 25-Mar-13 14:37:56

I'm going to play devils advocate here, how do you know it wasn't an important convo? you don't really have the authority to tell a passenger to go somewhere else, unless you work on the train? you were quite rude weren't you?

I don't condone him him calling anyone a f***ng bitch but had I been in his shoes, I would have told you to mind your own buisness and its not your train basically. could you have asked him to be quiet instead?

your OP made you sound quite bossy and entitled tbh, and I wouldn't have taken kindly to being told to move , I think you were both equally rude.

TheSmallClanger Mon 25-Mar-13 14:50:48

It was the quiet carriage. There are signs up in those specifically telling people not to make phone calls. She was not being "entitled".

Moominsarehippos Mon 25-Mar-13 14:56:04

Quiet carriage, people sighing and getting pissed off. I think the OP had every right to ask Big Gob to take his call outside.

hairtearing Mon 25-Mar-13 14:57:27

you're all entitled to your opinion , as I am mine, it just seemed quite abrupt and rude in the OP.

TheSmallClanger Mon 25-Mar-13 14:58:15

It isn't an opinion that you aren't meant to have phone conversations in the quiet carriage, it is a fact.

clam Mon 25-Mar-13 14:59:04

Doesn't everyone think that their own conversations/lives are important? Most of the time, though, others would disagree.

DaffodilAdams Mon 25-Mar-13 14:59:39

He was the one being rude and entitled by having the conversation there. If it was important he could have take it outside the carriage. There was nothing stopping him doing that.

Asking someone not to disturb others is not rude.

FasterStronger Mon 25-Mar-13 15:12:08

Oh he was big talking about uni modules to his mate. If he was enquiring after his dying grandma, I wouldn't have said any thing.

He had a whole train with free seats he could have used.

He was just swinging his dick. Am on a different train now and someone is playing music, but its not the quiet carriage so their choice...

MrsSpagBol Mon 25-Mar-13 15:19:33

Hairtearing - are you actually serious? The train doesn't belong to any of the commuters but if he chose to sit in the quiet coach then he needs to follow the rules.

It's a quiet coach - you are not allowed to take phone calls in there? If it's an emergency get up off your arse and move into a different carriage?! There is usually only 1 quiet coach per train - so he had the rest of the train to take his calls in?

What do you think the point of a quiet coach is then?!

I am shocked you are trying to justify this!!!

Eh, one person suggests another use their phone in the corridor, the other responds 'fucking bitch' and they are equally rude? How does that work out?

specialsubject Mon 25-Mar-13 16:27:24

which part of 'quiet carriage' didn't he understand? There are even pictures of crossed-through phones for the functionally illiterate.

good for you, OP. Rest assured little boy will get what he deserves. Probably chlamydia. :-)

tribpot Mon 25-Mar-13 16:34:17

Having a loud conversation on the train in any carriage is wankerish behaviour but it is expressly forbidden in the quiet carriage. Big signs up everywhere.

OP does not say that she asked him in anything other than a civil manner to push off to the vestibule. He may not have realised he was in the quiet carriage (I am amazed by the number of times this happens, are people blind?) but all he had to say was 'sorry' and move. End of.

As an irrelevant aside, I was once on a train not in the quiet carriage and the woman next to me was having a quiet convo on her phone. At one point she turned to me and said 'Is this the quiet carriage?' I said no and she said 'then why is everyone being so quiet?' Err .. the opposite of the quiet carriage is not the Carriage of Enforced Noisemaking smile Although I suspect every train would benefit from such a thing.

And btw don't get me started on people who play their music without headphones on the bus and train. Hanging is too good for them.

Maybe he didn't understand the word 'vestibule' and mistakenly thought she was telling him to fuck off smile

MooMooSkit Mon 25-Mar-13 16:49:10

I don't think OP was rude at all! Blimey it isn't hard to go to another carriage is it? There's signs everywhere and for the really stupid, mahoosive pictures of phones crossed out on it! Well done for standing up to him!

kerala Mon 25-Mar-13 18:48:09

Using your logic hairtearing civilised society would break down. So all rules are void if an individual has something "important" going on in their lives? Really? So if Im in a hurry for a dentist appointment I can run a red light? If I have had a stressful day I can light up a fag in the school playground? Your post makes no sense.

OP well done. What an idiot (him not you). I admire people that stand up and say something in situations like this rather than sitting there taking it my dad is like this - brave. Without people like you these idiotic selfish bullies would have no checks on them whatsoever.

MrsWolowitz Mon 25-Mar-13 18:56:51

YANBU OP. not at all.

Good on you for challenging him. What a selfish entitled prat.

ibbydibby Mon 25-Mar-13 19:05:41

YANBU since you were in the quiet carriage - well done for saying something.

I was in non-quiet carriage last year (ie carriage where phones etc are permitted). Lady had phone convo, about some hobby club she had been to the previous evening. Phone was on speaker phone, so could hear every word said by the person she was speaking, as well as what the passenger said. A few other passengers were smirking, as it seemed an odd thing to do. All of a sudden, arsehole passenger stomps down aisle and asks lady on phone to turn speaker phone off. She explains she has hearing impairment and that is only way she can use phone. Arsehole stomps back to seat. Lady quickly ends call, then goes down to arsehole to explain she has hearing problem, can't hold phone to ear, and can't use ear piece. He will not have it and carries on being totally vile. She ends up saying sorry (again) and going back to her seat. It was truly awful. I wanted to hug her. In the end I went up to her and asked her if she wanted a tea or coffee, and she burst into tears.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 25-Mar-13 22:05:09

Calling someone a fucking bitch is really not on.

Boredwench Thu 04-Apr-13 10:50:28

Well done for standing up to a rude person.....

Not sure why you've stereotyped the entire male youth generation though... No need. He wasn't rude because of his gender, he was rude because he was an arse. Don't go looking for men vs women in every situation.....

SatsukiKusukabe Thu 04-Apr-13 14:42:37

well he did use a sexist word, so his gender is relevant.

amused by hair upthread feeling the need to play "devils advocate", why? Does every rude thing done need to be defended?

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