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A bit shocked at this actually.

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 19:36

I don't think I have ever posted a thread in this section but here goes...

Someone on my FB just shared this.

Between that and the whole ARRSE debacle I think I have started taking this section a bit more seriously.

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 19:41

People who think we don't need feminism anymore are misguided. Yes, ok we're not slaves in the kitchen anymore and men don't have to be the emotionally stunted breadwinners but things are far from better... Hmm

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 19:43

I was never of the idea that we don't need feminism anymore, I just didn't realise how bad it still actually is, it just seems the only difference is a lot of the time it isn't voiced.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/03/2013 19:51

Someone shared that on my facebook too ... scary. Sad

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 19:51

I just googled it as well, it's pretty much accurate. :(

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 19:53

Wasn't digging at you schro Smile

I know what you're getting at & agree. I've reposted it on my page

www.facebook.com/pages/Yes-Im-a-feminist-No-I-dont-hate-men/392916050385

It's sad but when I originally clicked on here I thought it would be a link to some horrible 'joke' you'd seen or something so at least it's something that's trying to raise awareness!

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MakesCakesWhenStressed · 18/03/2013 19:54

That actually turned my stomach.

It's easy to sometimes get a little bit complacent these days, I find. I like to come on here for my reality dose to shock me out of my happy little rut.

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 19:57

Cautionary I didn't think you were, sorry if it sounded like I did!

I'll go have a look on your page. I think it wouldn't have made me feel so ill about it if it was a joke as some people have a crap sense of humour, it was because it wasn't and obviously those are the most searched for phrases. :(

Makes If it wasn't for that and the stuff that's been going on here for the past while, I think I would probably still be a bit blissfully ignorant.

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:03

I'm quite young but my mum told me what it was like being in her 20s in the early 90s and it sounded like we'd regressed, in terms of what is was like for a young girl/woman.

That's partly why I set up the page...I got fed up feeling like the only young person who'd even noticed. I know i'm not but it can seem that way, when feminism is a dirty word & you're trying to get your head around the cheek people have turned to avoid all these issues.

Rant over, sorry for hijacking! Smile

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 20:07

I've liked your page.

And no, hijack away, I started this thread as I wanted to talk about it a bit. New eyes and all that.

I'm 22 btw so quite young too. :) The person who originally posted that on my FB is 24 as well.

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:12

Oh snap...am 22 also Smile

Yeah, I set up that page to keep myself involved with it all in a way & do my bit for armchair activism. It's tempting to not look things up because it's just so disheartening sometimes but having to keep the page going, post things for debate, hear other's opinions & keep up to date on 'gender' news has really opened my eyes!

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 20:15

I can't believe the amount of stick you've had to put up with on that page!

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:16

It keeps me determined & reminds me why I bother & why we need it! Smile

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:19

(also, there's loads more on there that do get it & agree, use the page & share things from it, which makes me feel a little less useless in it all aha)

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 20:22

I've seen that there are lots who do agree. :) I think I will be following from now on.

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:24

Every little helps Smile

Nice to know there's yet another woman my age who gives a damn! Grin

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AnyFucker · 18/03/2013 20:26

Nice to see another recruit

Not so nice for you though. That lightbulb moment when you realise that actually feminism is more important than ever is certainly not a misty romantic notion. It fucking hurts

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 20:28

Yeah AF, you're right. It was a pretty sickly feeling actually and has been brewing for the past couple of weeks with all the stuff that's been happening on here.

TheCautionaryWhale There are lots of women my age that I know who are pretty strong believers. :)

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:28

Agree with AF, it isn't a nice realization!

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:30

I've lived in a bit of a backwater town in norfolk so the few times i've casually talked about slutwalk, one billion rising or anything like that I've been cast funny looks and told i'm obviously 'one of those man haters'.

Moved down south recently so it's not quite as bad as it was but not met many who aren't scared by the word iyswim.

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BertieBotts · 18/03/2013 20:31

Woo!

I was probably about 22 when I started getting angry about stuff too.

On the subject of facebook, and also people in their early 20s, I noticed recently that a lot of my friends have "liked" a page called The Lad Bible, I don't know if you've noticed a similar trend, but whenever someone reposts something from there it's always utterly disgusting and offensive, especially towards women. I was intrigued enough to take a look at the page itself the other day and was horrified. And yet this seems to be the overriding attitude of my generation. Nice :(

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TheCautionaryWhale · 18/03/2013 20:33

I've noticed the lad bible but not bothered questioning that page like I do some others (via my page, not personal account) because it's like a drop in the ocean...unfortunately. The lass bible was created as a backlash but isn't much better & is just a tit for tat of sexism.

I've stayed clear to be honest!

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 20:35

I'm in Glasgow so it's not hard to find lots of feminists here and I am pretty sure we had a slutwalk here too. The downside is that there is probably so many because of the attitudes of so many men here!

Bertie I've heard of that, I don't know how though? Probably through people liking it on FB. I'll give it a miss tonight, I had a long look at that site, the one that's been bothering here for the past while today and I still feel ill, proper physically ill.

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dummad · 18/03/2013 20:57

Just told DH about this and asked his opinion and he just shrugged and said it's nothing to worry about, that it's 'just google' WTF?

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 18/03/2013 21:04

Shock But that's the problem, it really isn't. The reason it's there is because it is the most popular actual searches. :(

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BertieBotts · 18/03/2013 21:15

Yes the way those are compiled is that every search anyone makes on google ever is logged somewhere, and the most popular phrases are suggested, since it's most likely you'll be looking for that thing. So it's shocking because it means that is what the most amount of people are looking at.

I find that with most things if I say the word "feminism" people run a mile. Whereas if you actually bring up the issue you wanted to discuss without saying "feminism" most women seem to identify with them. Funny that Confused

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