All the trolls are rather proving our point?

(71 Posts)
PromQueenWithin Mon 18-Mar-13 13:16:52

What do you think? Their need to goad and twist everything suggests to me that there are at least a sizeable minority that really hate women (or at least only like those that know their place). Their presence in the world is evidence to me that we still really need feminism.

Answer: they don't have a life.

TrampyPants Wed 20-Mar-13 18:56:10

Pretty sad. I told dh about this and his response was "but why?" grin

LadyBeagleEyes Wed 20-Mar-13 18:48:50

Unfortunately it's hard to tell the difference between MRA trolls and sad kids in their bedrooms TrampyPants.
And they want to be fathers shock.

leniwhite Tue 19-Mar-13 19:07:11

Do you think it's a dirty secret for them, or do they tell people they're trolls in RL? I find it fascinating and alarming in equal measure. They obviously have time and not a lot going on in RL, a bit like a fetish in some ways. It's almost a shame that we all go off and completely forget about them the minute we look away from the screen to our babies/jobs/lives/hobbies/actual friends/even just a plain old cup of tea.

scaevola Tue 19-Mar-13 10:14:37

I was thinking of Sunday's random crayoner; I must have missed one that was known to be MRA.

TrampyPants Tue 19-Mar-13 08:18:03

Yes, this thread coincided with mra troll, not sad kids in their bedrooms, thinking of ruder words. grin

scaevola Tue 19-Mar-13 08:14:11

You missed the ones over the weekend then.

TrampyPants Tue 19-Mar-13 08:07:42

Oh, I get that. Thing is this was started before the irritants arrived. I do get your point though. Best to not engage with them on the threads.

I agree with colditz, my ds is 7. He and his friend have just discovered "swears" and think they are hilarious. This latest influx reminds me of them.

scaevola Tue 19-Mar-13 07:56:12

I'm not questioning that it's a valid discussion.

Just pointing out that any reaction, including valid discussions, feeds trolls.

And trolling needn't be subject specific (it's on an increasing number of boards on MN). Any place where there is a satisfying result will keep them there: and as I have spotted at least 4 valid discussion threads, I should imagine they'll be here for a while yet.

TrampyPants Tue 19-Mar-13 07:50:05

Scaevola, I think this is a valid discussion. I was talking to dh about it last night, and the fact that we are trolled regularly makes you wonder what these little turds are so scared of.

Still, they'll grow up one day.

scaevola Tue 19-Mar-13 06:42:10

That was a wordy way of saying: trolls are best ignored totally.

scaevola Tue 19-Mar-13 06:41:37

Typically, a troll will keep trolling a place for as long as thy get a reaction there.

Threads such as this one, and the several that have appeared elsewhere on MN, are part of that "fix".

I did report to suggest that TATrollT might be deleted: MNHQ declined as it's a valid subject for discussion.

But be under no illusion. This discussion is feeding the troll. And attracting it back to the part of MN where the reaction is greatest.

alwayslateforwork Tue 19-Mar-13 04:18:57

Yes, I totally agree with that - it's like they imagine we are all wailing and gnashing our teeth at the sheer awfulness of it all, when in reality, we are just rolling our eyes and wondering if they've had enough to eat today, because mine always get testy when they're hungry...

I don't think they are mature enough to understand how little of an effect they are actually having, whilst at the same time reinforcing the necessity of raising children to understand what equality means (with a good dose of respect for other human beings) - kind of major league backfire.

colditz Tue 19-Mar-13 04:08:01

That's kind of what I mean about them being quite young kids, they've got this view of themselves as dangerous anarchists when actually, they sound like a lot of the year six kids at my son's school, in the way they boast, potty mouth etc. 11 year olds think they are so grown up when they do that! But as parents it's hard not to snigger, it's essentially them shouting "mummy you are a POOPOO HEAD", except they don't even dare say it to their own mothers because actually, they are polite and well behaved little boys in real life and wouldn't dare!

Dervel Tue 19-Mar-13 04:07:41

I think us men have and do benefit from feminism too.

alwayslateforwork Tue 19-Mar-13 04:02:33

Oh, they are definitely UK based - they just don't seem to realise that mn is a bit more global than their bedroom. Hey ho.

It isn't terribly well informed trolling either. I do quite miss the occasional clever troll. This bunch are just a bit tragic. It's hard to take them seriously. I think they genuinely imagine they are something of a tour de force instead of a minor irritant. Sad to have such a wildly optimistic opinion of yourself!

colditz Tue 19-Mar-13 03:52:09

I really do think that they are unsupervised children. I don't think they are foreign, I think they are Tweens or young teens, judging by their literacy levels and choice of vocabulary. Which begs the question - why are they not being supervised? They are vulnerable and at risk of predation.

LittleBunnyFeileFooFoo Tue 19-Mar-13 03:07:16

I suspect they're in the States or Australia. Nothing to do and no one to talk to, so they take their mean bitterness out here.

it's the fact they come out in the middle of the night that makes you wonder if they are sneaking on to the computer after their parents have gone to bed

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PopeBenedictsP45 Tue 19-Mar-13 02:14:04

"Anyone remember when we used to attract a better class of troll?"

You mean trolls that could spell insults correctly and form a sentence without grunting? Yeah, I remember.

PurpleAnnie Tue 19-Mar-13 02:05:56

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SecretNutellaFix Tue 19-Mar-13 02:03:22

<sigh>

Anyone remember when we used to attract a better class of troll?

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