Do sex workers deserve to be named and shamed in the media?

(81 Posts)
homeo Sat 16-Mar-13 23:11:38

Irish tabloid SundayWorldNewspaper has posted a video showing a sex worker's face and address. The reporter pretends to be a client but goes in with a hidden camera.

https://twitter.com/AlisandeF/status/308165744452046849

insuburbian Tue 11-Mar-14 14:11:33

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Well, there are some individuals who identify as feminists who have a very nasty attitude towards sex workers as well as objecting to the sex industry. But I doubt that any of them go so far as to put dog shit through letterboxes: that's much more likely to be the work of right-wing male moralists.

kim147 Sun 17-Mar-13 11:47:22

Bump

TheFallenNinja Sun 17-Mar-13 06:49:19

The state should not be in the business of naming and "shaming" anyone ffs.

They can't do fuck all else right.

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 17-Mar-13 06:19:53

Morning <bleary>

This thread was started by a returning troll (SURPRISE!!) - but we're inclined to let it stand for now in the hope that it will stop this particular merry-go-round of repetitive threads. The OP has been dealt with but do please report anything else you think we ought to see.

Sunnywithshowers Sun 17-Mar-13 03:22:16

OP, why do you come here again and again with the same links? To be frank, we all agree here that despite our views on sex works that sex workers do not involve abuse.

If you want people in this section to agree that sex work is a good thing you might be waiting a long time.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Sun 17-Mar-13 02:07:39

Didn't you post the exact same links last time, OP?

Can you copy and save LineRunner's post about how Melissa farley's list is laying into those who think those "reasons" are imaginable? Then you can refer to it whenever you get confused.

LineRunner Sun 17-Mar-13 01:06:43

There will always be tension between some sex workers and those who might benefit from sex working, and those who analyse the conditions of sex working and would wish to oppose exploitation.

LineRunner Sun 17-Mar-13 01:03:50

The judge was being a bit partial there herself, if quoted correctly.

homeo Sun 17-Mar-13 00:55:50

[353] I found the evidence of Dr. Melissa Farley to be problematic. Although Dr. Farley has conducted a great deal of research on prostitution, her advocacy appears to have permeated her opinions. For example, Dr. Farley’s unqualified assertion in her affidavit that prostitution is inherently violent appears to contradict her own findings that prostitutes who work from indoor locations generally experience less violence. Furthermore, in her affidavit, she failed to
qualify her opinion regarding the causal relationship between post-traumatic stress disorder and prostitution, namely that it could be caused by events unrelated to prostitution.

[354] Dr. Farley’s choice of language is at times inflammatory and detracts from her conclusions. For example, comments such as, “prostitution is to the community what incest is to the family,” and “just as pedophiles justify sexual assault of children….men who use prostitutes develop elaborate cognitive schemes to justify purchase and use of women” make her opinions less persuasive.

[355] Dr. Farley stated during cross-examination that some of her opinions on prostitution were formed prior to her research, including, “that prostitution is a terrible harm to women, that prostitution is abusive in its very nature, and that prostitution amounts to men paying a woman for the right to rape her.”

[356] Accordingly, for these reasons, I assign less weight to Dr. Farley’s evidence.

homeo Sun 17-Mar-13 00:54:49
AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:45:07

Are you worried about the End demand model homeo? Is that why you are repeatedly attacking Farley?

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:43:03

Well the link you have provided gives no reference, validity or context to why the Canadian Courts threw out her stats.

LineRunner Sun 17-Mar-13 00:35:53

homeo, I believe it's meant to be laying into the people who find those kinds of excuses or images funny or stylish or even imaginable.

homeo Sun 17-Mar-13 00:34:14

"Why shouldn't the stats be trusted?"

1. Because she writes a sick "joke" page at the expense of sex workers

2. According to the link below the Canadian courts threw out her stats. I wonder why?

itsjustahobby.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/melissa-fucking-farley-thinks-gang-rape-is-funny-and-it-gets-worse/

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:31:51

The fact you think it is supposed to be funny is the worrying part.

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:31:03

It isn't intended to be funny homeo. Really it isn't.

Sunnywithshowers Sun 17-Mar-13 00:28:03

My answer to your OP is no. And I do so wish you'd feck off with your bloody hobbyhorse.

homeo Sun 17-Mar-13 00:27:45

itsjustahobby.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/melissa-fucking-farley-thinks-gang-rape-is-funny-and-it-gets-worse/

1. I saw Pretty Baby and it reminded me of my stepfather and I thought I could get paid for it.
Yes, you read that right, it is a joke about incest.

2. I saw Pretty Woman and I liked the clothes.
All sex workers are shallow, and stupid.

*4. I like getting fucked by the football team, the fraternity brothers, and law students at graduation parties.
I realized that gang rape could be a transcendental experience.*
Just holy fuck! A joke about gang rape, Not just that but a slut shaming joke about gang rape as apparently there is no difference between liking getting fucked and being raped. Of course when you believe sex work is rape you don’t really see consent as important.

9. My boyfriend wanted me to do it. He said that being part of a stable of whores who worked for him could help me learn how to get along with other women.
Yeah, lets laugh at victims of domestic violence

10. My father wanted me to do it.
And those sexually abused by their parents, I mean that is just hilarious, my sides are splitting.

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:27:20

Do you actually want to engage in discussion or just fire some more questions at us and expect us to know what is going on in the head of another woman we have never met and never even heard of until about a week ago? D you think we are responsible for her?

Trekkie Sun 17-Mar-13 00:27:09

Has melissa farley "named and shamed" sex workers?
Your posts are flitting all over the place.

what are you on about

LineRunner Sun 17-Mar-13 00:26:09

I hope this is a brilliant ironic thread that I'm not quite getting yet.

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:25:37

Do you not agree with the stats produced? Is that why you are trying to discredit her?

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:24:36

Why shouldn't the stats be trusted?

AbigailAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:23:54

I think those are intended to be reasons that no prostitute said, ever. Unless of course you know prostitutes that became prostitutes because of those reasons?

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