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Suggestions for a feminist Godwin's Law.

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RM76 · 01/02/2013 20:04

I have only been on Mumsnet for a couple of days, but reading a few threads here leads me to believe that feminism needs an equivalent to Godwin's law, hopefully it would be another weapon in our armoury when faced with derailments on feminist issues.

A few triggers for this new law might be, for example:

Misandry.
Feminazi.
Hysterical women.
It happens to men too.
Porn's not bad because...
It's feminine empowerment.

Also what would we call it?

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feministefatale · 01/02/2013 20:25

I suppose it would have to be called Rm's law

Would man haters be on the list or is it covered by misandry?

What about "prosex feminst" to imply that other feminists who don't poll dance hate sex?

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RM76 · 01/02/2013 20:34

Love it, no I think 'man haters' could stand alone, ha, ha, 'prosex feminist'.

It shouldn't be named after me (and anyway RMs 'not my name', to quote an annoying song) maybe it's because I don't have dingly, dangly bits that I don't need to have everything named after me.
Grin

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feministefatale · 01/02/2013 20:40

Godwins (whoever he is) has been dining out on it for 20 years, I think you should take your claim to fame where you can it Wink

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feministefatale · 01/02/2013 20:41

can get it

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RM76 · 01/02/2013 20:47

Maybe it's the feinting female in me, we mustn't push ourselves forward, we might upset the men.
In which case if it were named after me it should be M**'s law, but then ironically I took my husband's name so that means it would be his name, but then it was conversations with him that led to the thread so...
Argh, I am a betrayer of all womankind! Buggar.Confused

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feministefatale · 01/02/2013 20:53

The feminist quandary Grin

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OneMoreChap · 01/02/2013 20:54

RM76

Maybe it's the feinting female in me, we mustn't push ourselves forward, we might upset the men.

I nearly fell for that Grin

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RM76 · 01/02/2013 21:04

Sorry, I meant fainting, it wasn't some devious woman trick.

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RM76 · 01/02/2013 21:47

Just an extra idea, perhaps it could actually be more like bingo. Each Misogynist trope gets a number, and when we've spotted them all in one thread we get to call 'Misogynist Bingo', do you think MN would be up for organising prizes?
I'll shut up now.

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rosabud · 01/02/2013 22:12

Smile Smile Smile

Lining up with two little ducks and all the fat ladies!

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LineRunner · 04/02/2013 00:18

I play poker on some threads.

'I see your Feminazi and raise you Two Empowered Lap Dancers.'

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mathanxiety · 05/02/2013 01:48

Unfortunately the word 'feminist' is itself a Godwin's Law in many situations. It is especially used against young women by young men. No need for Feminazi or ball breaker or any of the rest. 'Feminist' is now a gendered insult.

morewomeninskepticism.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/27-gendered-insults/ Good blog here.

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RM76 · 05/02/2013 04:12

Really good blog, thanks. Will bookmark.
You're so right about the word feminist, but I will stubbornly continue to use it, I will NOT be silenced by those creeps.
Although it would be nice if feminists could have a new name, like 'The Sherbet Dip Dabs', you couldn't demonise that, and 'The Sherbet Dip Dabzis' just wouldn't work.
Then again the MRM could demonise anything, they're just horrible.
Maybe we could give them a new name? 'The Poo heads', I mean they're too stupid to have a cool evil name.
Sorry for rambling, bored and tired, insomnia sucks bum!

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Chubfuddler · 05/02/2013 05:14

I was just going to suggest the old "lap dancers are all phd students doing it for shits and giggles" but lineruner beat me to it.

The other would have to be "men suffer DV too". Yes they do. That is sad and wrong. Go and be angry about it somewhere relevant.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 05/02/2013 05:32

go and be angry somewhere relevant

Yy to that

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RM76 · 05/02/2013 05:38

I know It's a bit tangential but, can anyone tell me why the media are so obsessed with opening doors?
It seems every time the word feminist is mentioned, door opening becomes the issue of the day.
Yes I want the door opening, yes I'm a feminist, surely EVERYONE should open doors for EVERYONE else, isn't that just polite?

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TheSmallClanger · 05/02/2013 10:44

Yes, opening doors - "the death of chivalry" and "women just want it both ways".

Does "women's brains are hard-wired for nurturing. Why won't you just accept that?" fit here?

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msrisotto · 05/02/2013 10:48

YY Smallclanger, I was coming on here to say the same - pink brain vs blue brain bullshit.

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Hullygully · 05/02/2013 10:49

"Equal but different"

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Hullygully · 05/02/2013 10:49

"It's biology"

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LineRunner · 05/02/2013 11:07

"in a post-feminist world"

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AbigailAdams · 05/02/2013 12:25

"feminism's gone too far"

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LineRunner · 05/02/2013 12:27

"I really love women but ..."

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AbigailAdams · 05/02/2013 12:28

"you're overthinking it"

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Hullygully · 05/02/2013 12:39

"the thing is, you're putting men off"

"feminism has become a dirty word"

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