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Would you put different things into party bags for boys and girls?

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HopeForTheBestExpectTheWorst · 04/09/2010 19:54

My friend's ds turns 4 this month. For the party, she's ordered cupcakes rather than one big cake, and each child will get one in their party bag, along with a few other bits and pieces:

  • pink, heart cupcake for girls, with tassly/glittery pen and notebook, little bag sweets & choc buttons


  • pirate cupcake for boys, mini telescope thingy, little bag sweets and choc buttons


I am somewhat Blush to admit that I didn't say anything to her, but I was really a bit shocked. Why can't they all have the same cupcakes? Angry And even she admitted that the mini telescope thingys were really cool - so why can't the girls have them too? Angry Angry

I can see that some things would be more appropriate for girls/boys (actually, the only example I can think of off the top of my head is hair clips - I suspect that most boys would not be interested in getting them in a party bag (I might be wrong, though)), but really, why different cupcakes and why don't the girls get the "cool" gift?
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TheButterflyEffect · 04/09/2010 20:01

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 04/09/2010 20:14

because the boys would all wither and die if they had notebooks, or the girls would grow adam's apples if they got telescopes? :o

I wouldn't bother, it seems mad.

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HopeForTheBestExpectTheWorst · 04/09/2010 20:18

Exactly! Why do it? WHY?
My ds would also be delighted to get glittery pens or notebooks.
Actually, he'd be delighted to get any bit of free tat done up in a party bag, which is surely the point?

But even more than the toys, I was annoyed about the cakes - WHY?

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Sequins · 04/09/2010 20:20

No.

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sethstarkaddersmum · 06/09/2010 20:36

what an interesting thread.

aaaargh @ the different cupcakes.
my dd shamed me by having a huge tantrum at a party because she was given a boy's party bag because they got the numbers a bit wrong and her party bag had 'boy Lego' in it. (Bloody generous to put Lego in a party bag at all, I thought....)
At the local soft play area where they do parties, they have the option of pirate theme and princess theme. DD is often the only girl at the party because she is in a class with only one other girl in it, and a couple of times the mum has very considerately arranged for it to be 'pirates and princesses' so she doesn't have to be a pirate. Which leaves me torn between gratitude and feminist despair....

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readinginsteadnow · 06/09/2010 20:40

I've always just done the same because its easier to give them out, and you dont need to worry about 'mixing up' or uninvited extras being the 'correct' gender Grin

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Tootlesmummy · 06/09/2010 20:42

I didn't do cup cakes but I confess I did do boys and girls bags, also tailored depending on the age Blush

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Takver · 06/09/2010 21:04

Agree - totally barking.

Like the cupcakes idea though.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 06/09/2010 23:52

Right, this pirates and princesses thing....

Pirates - robbers on sea basically

Princesses - overprivileged rich women.

Are boys inherently poorer, more maritime or trainee muggers?

Are girls somehow richer, with a family history of beating other people up?

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 07/09/2010 10:11

I'm all for dressing up as pirates/royals or whatever (in fact where I come from dressing up as pirates is practically obligatory...) - it's the idea that dressing up as one is somehow for boys only.

And god knows I've seen enough portraits of men dolled up in their pearl-studded riding jackets and what have you to know that preening is hardly restricted to female aristos.

I just find it bewildering!

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ProfYaffle · 07/09/2010 10:16

My dds would've much preferred the pirate stuff. I do gender neutral party bags (toy animal, colouring stuff and sweets in the last one) through sheer laziness really.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 07/09/2010 10:41

Don't mention Prince Charming, TBE!

Quite right though, prince and princess party would be nicer. What about a highwayman party?

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HughRinal · 07/09/2010 10:44

won't the icing get all squashed in a party bag?
The kids don't care whet the cakes look like anyway.
IMO party bags should contain sweets full of e-numbers and non gender specific cheap plastic tat.

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sethstarkaddersmum · 07/09/2010 12:11

hmm, if my ds1 was invited to a princess party he would quite happily go as a king or a knight, and I'm sure there are many boys who would like to go as dragons. Come to that, it would be quite fun as a girl to turn up as a dragon too.

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megonthemoon · 07/09/2010 12:12

That is awful! I genuinely thought everyone just filled the bags with some bubbles, a pen and a pad all topped up with e numbers organic raisins.

It wouldn't ever occur to me to make them boys/girl bags - in fact I spent more time than strictly necessary making DS's party bags gender-blind by ensuring some girls got blue pads and some boys got pink pens! Was that reverse social engineering? Am i equally culpable by trying to un-gender them?

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azazello · 07/09/2010 12:13

I do slightly different party bags in that they have the same stuff but if there are stickers, they are geared towards each child as parties are still very small at the moment.

We're going to a 'knights and princesses' party this weekend. DD is going as a knight. DS is a dragon.

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WoodyAllen · 07/09/2010 12:17

I do cupcakes and get the kids to decorate their own at the party. Clouds of edible glitter is mighty popular with both sexes.

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ProfessorLaytonIsMyLoveSlave · 07/09/2010 12:17

I did "Ben 10" and "non-Ben 10" bags at DS's last party, as he wanted a Ben 10 theme and I knew that several of the guests had no interest in Ben 10 whatsoever. I knew that by and large the boys would go for Ben 10 and the girls wouldn't, but also that there would be some opting the other way, and both sets of bags were unisex.

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HopeForTheBestExpectTheWorst · 07/09/2010 13:59

Oooh, hadn't checked back and didn't realise there were most repsonses on this!

I have been thinking about it more, and find that my natural feelings would be that all stereotypical boy stuff could be just as appealing to girls, but that possibly the girl stuff would not go down well with the boys....which led me to think about why this might be, and my tentative conclusion is that the stereotypical girl stuff is, quite frankly, often a bit boring and samey.

Just LOOK at this:

boy stuff

compared to

girl stuff


The predominance of PINK alone would be enough to make me want to get a boy bag!

I think there is enough scope within pretty much any theme to cover everyone's tastes, so yes, re the Princess thing, rather than just little girls dressing in pretty dresses "being Princesses", you could have Knights and Dragons and Castles and Jousting and Banquets and Jewels and and and...there's so many possibilities, the pretty dress and crown thing is only a tiny little part of what it could be.

The whole thing annoys me the more I think I about it Angry

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