Honey cooked in a slow cooker

(21 Posts)
readyforno2 Mon 07-Jan-13 11:34:30

He is breastfed and although my house is clean, he rolls around the floor etc and I'm not too anal about antibacterial wipes etc.
Thanks again everyone grin

FredFredGeorge Mon 07-Jan-13 11:21:40

ethelb It is interesting - one thing to note on the historical basis is that there does appear to be on average a delay in bacteria colonisation today compared to historically - lower levels of breastfeeding (breastmilk contains lots of bacteria and a nipple isn't sterilised) more anti-bacterial wipes, lower incidence of fermented foods due to refigeration etc. So it may well be that a young babies guts are different and more at risk.

But yes honey isn't really very risky at all, but it's also easy to leave out. But no need to worry if you do feed baby some. Particularly babies over 6mo.

ethelb Mon 07-Jan-13 10:20:34

Interesting article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/aug/25/health.society

ethelb Mon 07-Jan-13 10:18:28

@fredfred thanks for the clarification I wasn't aware they had such different patterns of infection.

FredFredGeorge Mon 07-Jan-13 07:55:15

ethelb No, children are much more likely to get infant botulism, the adult form is extremely rare, and is generally linked with bowel surgery or something. Infant botulism is the spores colonising the babies digestive tract and then pumping out toxins - that's effectively impossible in anyone older than a baby as the gut is full of bacteria that will out-compete it and more stomach acid which it doesn't like. And it's much more common because the bacteria aren't there yet.

It's really not something to worry about though, it's extremely rare, and if your baby has been on solid food for awhile, and you've not been obessive about removing bacteria from babies enviroment then the chances are even less.

readyforno2 Mon 07-Jan-13 07:47:40

* fine obviously *

readyforno2 Mon 07-Jan-13 07:47:04

Thanks everyone!
He seems absolutely find this morning and slept better last night than he has in ages..

ethelb Sun 06-Jan-13 22:21:43

I think they are more likely to get infant botulism as they are infants and dont have strong imune systems. It is very very serious. Im not denying that its just a six mibth old is a lot more likely to grt ill from an improperly wiped kitchen counter than honey. So no need to panic!

Welovecouscous Sun 06-Jan-13 21:54:27

NHS choices says 13 cases in uk since 1978 None were fatal. It is rare in those over 6 months.

readyforno2 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:47:30

I thought that too Sam.

SamSmalaidh Sun 06-Jan-13 21:42:17

I thought babies were more likely to get infant botulism? Weren't there some cases last year? Still a tiny, tiny risk though of course.

ethelb Sun 06-Jan-13 21:40:24

The honey botulism link is about the most infantessimally small risk if all the food risks out there. Children are no more likely to get it than adults (it is v dangerous if they do though) so unless all Of you have come down with the biggest honey caused botulusm poisoning known to man then i really wouldnt worry grin

JiltedJohnsJulie Sun 06-Jan-13 21:35:51

Should think if he's asleep and not screaming and vomiting everything is ok smile

readyforno2 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:34:19

Yeah, sorry I didn't catch how old she was either grin
Shit, it doesn't kill it?!
Just going to have to hope your nn is a sign

JiltedJohnsJulie Sun 06-Jan-13 21:29:09

Sorry Robins, how old did you say your Dd was? grin

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sun 06-Jan-13 21:27:19

Cooking honey doesn't kill the botulism, but it's pretty rare so should be fine.

RobinsBaubleSparkles Sun 06-Jan-13 21:26:49

Did I mention that she was 7 months? wink

Don't know why I put it in the sentence twice! hmm grin

RobinsBaubleSparkles Sun 06-Jan-13 21:24:59

I imagine he'll be fine.

My DD1 at 7 months had honey roasted parsnip when she was 7 months. I totally forgot, at the time, that she wasn't supposed to. She was fine, she's now 5.

readyforno2 Sun 06-Jan-13 21:22:11

Thanks for replying. He seems fine. Although he is asleep now.
What an idiot. I should have checked confused

JiltedJohnsJulie Sun 06-Jan-13 21:02:37

Think the risk is botulism, but the risk is very, very minimal, so I wouldn't worry too much, especially if Lo is looking and acting normal smile

readyforno2 Sun 06-Jan-13 20:44:16

Shit! Have been at my aunts for a family birthday meal and fed my ds 6 1/2 months, some fruity chicken stew mixed with mash. He absolutely loved it and demolished a plateful.
I then found out that it had honey in it. Will he be ok??

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