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THURSDAY......................9.00.................."I SMACK AND I'M PROUD"......................

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RTKangaMummy · 18/09/2006 22:33

THURSDAY 21 SEPTEMBER





Documentary

I Smack and I'm Proud

9:00pm - 10:00pm

ITV1 London




VIDEO Plus+: 8537
Subtitles, widescreen





Documentary looking at and analysing the behaviour of five sets of parents who believe in smacking as an appropriate means of disciplining their children. Experts Dr Miriam Stoppard, Lynette Burrows and Professor Christina Lyons and other parents give their views - both for and against.




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SherlockLGJ · 18/09/2006 22:36

Great I will get my popcorn and a cushion now, it will do a Suzy Wong, you can be sure of it.

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RTKangaMummy · 18/09/2006 22:36
Grin
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nutcracker · 18/09/2006 22:37

One of the women in the ad for this was in that reality programme that Nadia Swalaha (sp?) does where 2 families swap houses/lives for a week.

It was quite a while ago so god knows why she is in this.

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puff · 18/09/2006 22:38

saw a bit of the trailer and there was a woman with terrifying eyebrows

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RTKangaMummy · 18/09/2006 22:39

Everyone has an opinion on whether smacking is an acceptable form of punishment for children. Past generations readily admit that they were smacked by their parents and the phrase most often heard would be ?it never did me any harm,? but now smacking has become taboo and it takes a brave parent to admit they smack their child.


I Smack and I'm Proud gets to the heart of the issue to investigate whether it is an effective form of discipline.

Three quarters of parents polled for the programme admit to having smacked their child, and most are opposed to an outright ban, so why has it become such a contested issue?

The four sets of parents featured in this documentary strongly believe that their children should be smacked if they misbehave and they're not ashamed to admit it.


They have agreed to let cameras into their homes to follow every aspect of their family life and record their reactions to their children's misbehaviour.

From a no-nonsense mum who believes smacking is the only way to keep her unruly kids in line, to a strict Christian family who think that the threat of a quick slap is the only way to instil respect, I Smack and I'm Proud takes a hard hitting look at discipline in today's family life.

Current laws state that whilst mild smacking is allowed, parents who smack their children hard enough to leave a mark could face up to five years in jail, but this is still unclear to most people.

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nutcracker · 18/09/2006 22:39

I think that was her Puff. She is quite strange. In the house/life swap programme the woman that went to her house cried when she found that the upstairs electrics didn't work cos the mum spent the money on botox.

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puff · 18/09/2006 22:42

she sounds a gem

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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 11:02

They are talking about this on THIS MORNING

ITV1

now UNTIL 12.30pm

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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 11:36

On in a mo ITV1 THIS MORNING

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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 11:40

NOW

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anniediv · 20/09/2006 11:41

Have you just seen the woman on This Morning whacking the table with a fish slice? If she has to whack the table twice, then she slaps the kid round the face. Quite scary!

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Nemo1977 · 20/09/2006 11:42

she is bloody scarey.

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anniediv · 20/09/2006 11:43

And very proud of the cracks in the table where she's belted it so hard!!

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DominiConnor · 20/09/2006 11:45

RTKangaMummy is correct in her interpretation of the current laws.
...written by white people.

My 2yo is very very blonde and white. I've left marks on his leg simply restrianing him from kicking me in the face whilst changing his nappy.

Black kids don't show marks so easily.
It's a badly written Blairite law. Unenforceable and merely to pander to North London media types, and the fools who are ruining the NSPCC.

I don't smack my kids not because I think it's cruel, but because it simply does not work. I recall being hit as a child both by Christian teachers and my parents, and it did not have the desired effect. Not least when you hit a child, the basic lesson you are teaching is not "this is bad", but "big poeple have the right to use force on little ones".

But all punishment is cruelty at some level.
When DS was especially very bad, we took down his Shrek poster and calendar of the moon.
He cried more from that than when he ran into a piece of wood so hard that he had to go to hospital.
Given that we're not willing to hospitalise our child with lumps of wood to punish them, other methods come into play.
Is that mental torture ?
Is a denial of privilseges ike going to parties worse or better than a smakc ?

For whom is it worse or better ?

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Nemo1977 · 20/09/2006 11:47

see the woman is backtracking from we smack once a week to once every month or two to actually we just threaten it..

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Kidstrack · 20/09/2006 11:55

i hate the threaten of you do that again and you will be smacked, whats the point of threatning a smack, if a child is smacked reguarly for mis behaving then surely they will be used to expecting a smack therefor a parent threatning it seems pointless

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Kidstrack · 20/09/2006 11:55

i'll be watching on thurs

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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 11:56

DC I didn't write any of those comments

I cut and pasted from other sites

I didn't edit or even read them tbh

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clumsymum · 20/09/2006 12:03

I'm pretty teed off about just the title they're giving this programme.

I don't think any responsible caring parent can feel PROUD of smacking. We would all like children who don't need to be disciplined in this way.

But some of us parents may feel that our childrens more excessive behaviours need slightly more severe discipline from time to time. They need not feel proud of that, but shouldn't feel shamed either.

I'd feel much more ashamed if my child was growing up as an undisciplined little b&st&rd who was going to become a nuisance to society.

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Socci · 20/09/2006 12:07

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Greensleeves · 20/09/2006 12:17

"We would all like children who don't need to be disciplined in this way."

I get so fed up with hearing parents blame their children for their decision to smack. I doubt very much whether your child is so extraordinarily badly behaved that only violence will do. My sons are both energetic, strong-willed, challenging, difficult kids. I don't smack them, neither do I let them do as they please. It's rubbish to assume that parents who don't smack must just have "easier" children. Total rubbish.

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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 12:18

This is from the THIS MORNING website

A controversial ITV1 documentary goes out tomorrow night called 'I smack and I'm proud' featuring parents who think just that. In conjunction with the programme they have released a survey revealing eighty per cent of parents support smacking as a punishment if necessary.

So is it acceptable to smack your kids? Today we will see the two sides of this debate, from Anjula Mutanda who believes it is 'not right' to smack a child and mum Anne Atkins who smacks her 3 year old daughter at least once a week.

The Statistics

ITV surveyed almost 2000 people to get the following results:

? Eight out of ten parents in Britain oppose smacking ban

? Seven of out ten parents (67%) smack their children

? 80% of adults without children believe in smacking and would smack their offspring if they thought it necessary.

? 64% of parents surveyed (and 73% of those who were non-parents) said that even if a ban was in place they would flout the law and smack their children regardless.

? The figures were highest in the 35-54 category where 74% of parents polled revealed that they either have in the past, or do currently smack their children.

? Eight out of ten people polled were smacked as children themselves, and as adults in today's society, 63% of parents and 74% of non-parents consider smacking to play an important role in the disciplining of children.

The Current Smacking Law

  • The smacking law in England and Wales states that mild smacking is allowed but any smack which leaves a mark is illegal and could result in action. Many parents find this law confusing and in fact less than half of parents polled (43%) understood this law, with some even thinking that it was just illegal to smack their kids in public.


  • Amid fresh calls for a smacking ban, most recently in Scotland, the survey has revealed that 82% of parents and 87% of non parents surveyed are against a complete ban. They firmly disagree with the government being able to control this aspect of family life.


  • Most parents believe that they are able to decide themselves whether to use smacking as part of their discipline process, and, in backing this thought, 80% of parents (and 87% of non-parents) do not consider a light smack to be the same thing as hitting a child.


  • A huge amount of people polled are concerned about the behaviour of young people on the streets and a whopping 73% of parents (and 78% of non-parents) think that a smacking ban would have a resulting negative effect on child discipline in our wider society.


Anne Atkins : Says Smacking is Acceptable

Anne says smacking and hitting is two different things in her opinion.

"All smacking is not wrong if used properly, I would never hit my child in an abusive way. I think there is a big difference. Children need to be disciplined, a quick smack will tell them that their behaviour is not accepted.

But they need incentives just as much as they need disincentives. In a way it doesn't particularly matter what those disincentives are provided they are there. Some chose to smack some don't.

Anjula Mutanda: Disagrees With Smacking

"It is harmful for a child to be in a routine of being smacked everytime they are naughty. One- they get confused about how love is expressed - if they think that their parents love them then why do they always smack me.

Two- if a child is routinely smacked then they will think that this is the norm and that's when they will start hitting their parents back and hitting out on others simply because this is their norm. It is inevitably teaching your child that violence is acceptable.?


ITV Documentary

'I Smack and I'm Proud' explores the controversial issue of smacking by featuring five families who do smack their children alongside experts and parents from both sides of the debate. Taken on a journey through the documentary, some of the parents confront their discipline techniques to look at whether they are effective alternatives to smacking for their families.

'I Smack and I'm Proud' - Thursday 21 September 9pm ITV1
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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 12:21

here is an article about Anne Atkins

What I didn't know from the interview was whether her 2 older DDs would smack the toddler

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RTKangaMummy · 20/09/2006 12:24

For those who do smack

what do you do if your DD/DS smacks another child?

Or smacks you?

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clumsymum · 20/09/2006 12:25

Greensleeves,
" I get so fed up with hearing parents blame their children for their decision to smack"

I also get fed up with people who don't know a child, a family's circumstances, what the parents have tried etc. etc. judging that family on how they raise their parents.

All children are different, as are all parents, and indeed all family dynamics. You have found what works for you and your 2 energetic sons. Good
Others find other methods work for them.

Walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me.

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