Why not try to get them engaged with a postive project like the Build an African Farmyard - ! Taking part in this project will enable your kids to carry out exciting learning activities at the same time as raising money for poor families in Africa using our pack of fun ideas, information and facts. A lot of fun :-) x

OK - so arguing is good because the line of communication still open even if loud and negative . I think it is when they withdraw that you have to worry.

I think you have to let them be. I read a book recently and if you have a DS then all he will be thinking is "I wish mum would stop sweating the small stuff". I think we mums are supposed to take a "chill pill"! .

oh yes....still arguing......

Not sure.

I suppose for us because there are several third parties involved we have a fair idea of what is getting to him.

I would only be worried if there weren't things you knew about and suddenly becomes very withdrawn, uncommunicative. If they are arguing with you then they are still communicating!

I wish I knew what "normal" moping was.....what is the difference between being "a teenager" and something more serious.....

Depends what he is miserable about.

right now..

the bullying
the house move
the bullying
the dyslexia
the suspension
the bullying
the suspension
the horrible parents he as the misfortune to be lumped with

Right now I am trying to be understanding.
I don't understand. I can't even begin to but I am there if he needs me - usually relatively inconvenient moments.

If it is serious - more than general teenage moping - then investigate some sort of counselling. At least that way they are talking to someone even if it isn't you.

yes I have one he is sitting next to me now
trying to start arguements about anything and everything
general miseryness (is that a word?)
hates everything and everyone
mumbles
mopes

but tomorrow he will be fine, I don't try and snap him out of it, its usually because he's tired/stressed etc, I just give him lots of support and reassurance in whatever way I can, but not letting him get away wth it iykwim.

I blame hormones, it's hard being a teenager.

do you have one....how do you cope, do you try and snap them out of it or leave them be......