Where do all the stylist women in London get their padded winter coats with real fur around the hood from????

(59 Posts)
mistakeallround Sun 25-Nov-12 17:47:54

As the title says.... where can i get one of these lovely padded coats from? they are to the knee, slightly padded, real fur round collar and hood and bloody gorgeous....the coat looks expensive but not Moncler ...can anyone help me ???

PretzelTime Wed 28-Nov-12 10:43:19

herethereandeverywhere, you are welcome to try, but apparantly foxes etc taste awful!

herethereandeverywhere Wed 28-Nov-12 10:23:52

Fake fur made from plastic made from petro-chemical industry = not animal friendly or cruelty free.

In the same way we can't be sure fur is ethically farmed, we can't be sure the meat from the leather you wear was ever eaten.

If I eat the mink/fox/raccoon dog can I wear it then? Happy to give it a go TBH. What if the carcass is use in animal feed (eg petfood)? That ok?

PretzelTime Wed 28-Nov-12 10:06:49

Well, in my opinion...
Meat = something a majority of people need to eat (I know vegans disagree, but I think only few people can thrive on veg diets)
Leather = Ideally from animals which have been used as food. Also very long-lasting, biodegradable material.
Fur= Made mostly from non-edible animals, luxury good, fake fur exists.

herethereandeverywhere Wed 28-Nov-12 08:14:39

How can we be sure that the leather we wear is from ethical sources? If the clothes are not made in the UK they won't be farmed to UK/EU standards.

And what about the down element of the lovely warm padded jackets? Do the geese just freely avail themselves of it?

And what about the production of artifical fibres we all wear? Are they all vegan-approved or made from petro-chemical industry sources? How many animals die horrible slow and painful deaths as a result of damage from the petro-chemical industry each year?

I'm against un-necessary cruelty to any animal but I'm a meat-eating leather wearer and I struggle to understand why fur is so "special" in this regard.

PretzelTime Tue 27-Nov-12 20:29:00

Holy shit Astaril, those poor foxes. Just reading your decription of the video made me upset sad

Love the look of real fur though, but considering the cruelty behind it it's not worth it. If one really wants real fur, there are plenty of vintage items out there, right?

Apologies, I meant coyote fur, not raccoon.

There is a plastic Playmobil raccoon on my coffee table! grin

Btw Canada Goose coats use real fur. One of my team members has just bought a parka. It was €600. It had a raccoon fur hood.

monkeysmama Mon 26-Nov-12 22:27:13

I have the Barbour Arctic parka. It's very warm. Dp has a Woolrich one that has lasted years and looks like new.

50shades1 Mon 26-Nov-12 21:30:33

I have the Aigle Cuckmere coat which is duckdown with detachable real fur collar, costs about £260. It's lovely and warm and I think always looks smart compared to other padded coats.

Was going to say just what sansucre did smile

waltermittymistletoe Mon 26-Nov-12 18:42:45

I don't propose you do anything.

I was saying that an overpopulation of the animal doesn't necessarily make it ethical because it's about the method used to skin the animal.

So you gassed them. One of the more humane ways. Fair enough. I was only asking! wink

bishboschone Mon 26-Nov-12 17:30:01

I know because they are heartless bastards !!!

slug Mon 26-Nov-12 17:13:30

So what do you propose waltermittymiseltoe? Let several species of birds go extinct instead? there are shades of grey in this argument.

FWIW We used large live catch cages and a friend, who had a licence, did the gassing.

Astaril Mon 26-Nov-12 16:49:21

Justreadthefuckingwords- Thanks, thats brilliant! I am also, like you, meat eating and leather wearing by the way. I do source free range and only eat lamb in restaurants where I can not be sure but I am certainly not anti farming animals, nor against some poor eskimo who needs to keep warm and makes a fur coat. I am anti fur trade because it really is genuine cruelty. It can not be compared in any way to farming meat or using leather. It is in a different league and will always be as it can never be regulated. The craziest thing is that high quality fake fur is amazing so it is just so unessesary.

bishboschone- The equipment needed to kill them without ruining the pelt ie: gas, electrocution is expensive so in China they just don't bother with it.

Slug- If the possums were caught in the wild using a cage type trap and killed quickly there is nothing wrong with it exactly, it is the larger problem of regulating a fur trade. How can you know which pelts are humanly caught, kept and killed and which ones are not?

Farming Fur is illegal in Britain and there are restrictions on what can be imported, sadly this doesn't go far enough. The only people who can stop this trade gaining even more ground are the fashion designers, celebrities and models willing to be brave enough to say NO and they will if people would just bloody well STOP BUYING IT!

Kill It, Skin It, Wear It

BBC article

The Independent

waltermittymistletoe Mon 26-Nov-12 15:40:18

Just become you think possum are a nuisance doesn't mean it's ethical.

How did you get the fur?

bishboschone Mon 26-Nov-12 15:29:27

Yeah that's the point .. Just kill the feckers humanely .

IAmSoFuckingRock Mon 26-Nov-12 13:51:54

slug did you kill them humanely?

slug Mon 26-Nov-12 13:47:11

You know, some fur is ethical.

Back when I was a student in the <<cough>> 80's, one of the ways I made extra money was by trapping possums for fur. I would get $10 a pelt and it was quite a common thing for my peers to do.

Before you get horrified at why and how I could do something like that, can I put some background in here to give you a perspective. I come from New Zealand, a country with (almost) no native mammals. It's known for it's unique birdlife and unique forests. The possum was imported into New Zealand and, having no predators, has caused absolute devastation. It eats bird eggs, eats the growing tips of the native tree ferns and spreads bovine TB. It's hard to describe just what a ecological disaster it caused. The possums have proved very difficult to eradicate, the govt have tried poison bait drops, always controversial, and paid people to trap possums. As trappers for fur we were, is a small way, helping to keep the numbers down to a reasonable number.

However, later in the 80's as the anti fur movement gained ground and started spreading it's propaganda, the demand for fur dropped and the numbers of possums soared. Quite a few bird species hovered on the verge of extinction until the govt stepped in with the poison bait drops. As I explained to DH the first time he witnessed the NZ roads, Kiwi's see it as their patriotic duty to run over any possum they see.

I feel no shame wearing possum fur clothes. The possum - merino knitwear especially is the softest warmest thing you will ever wear.

bishboschone Mon 26-Nov-12 11:49:35

Astaril... That has made my blood run cold .. I have never been able to watch the footage but I know it goes on. I agree totally that the men / women ? Doing it must be disturbed to be able to do that to a living creature . Why the feck can't they kill them humanely just before they do it ..( if they must tear its fur from its body .. .bastards !

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney Mon 26-Nov-12 10:41:43

Please don't go for real fur, Astraril has said it all already.

I like Hobbs Chamrousse coat with detachable hood. They are 20% off till today too.
hobbs

lurkingaround Mon 26-Nov-12 10:28:52

of not oof, obviously. Sheesh, read before posting.

lurkingaround Mon 26-Nov-12 10:28:01

Did you see the mention of Astrakhan on this board lately? I hadn't known exactly what it was until then. Worth a thread oof its own really. I will link again: here.

There is no need.

Just a bit about 'ethical' fur labelling

Bonsoir Mon 26-Nov-12 09:57:09

Moncler
Woolrich
Blauer
Canada Goose
Aigle

noddyholder Mon 26-Nov-12 08:01:32

Moncleur so expensive but lovely.tried on a friends Canada goose if ever a warm coat could look glam thatvwas it!

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