whats normal with your kids?

[superbagpuss]

I've been reading posts on here as I was a child of divorced parents

is it normal for your DSC to have room in your house when they do not live there all the time

I had a room with my dad as I lived there permanently

when visiting my mum - every second weekend
and a week in the summer - we were expected to sleep on camp beds in the lounge or in siblings beds if they were not there
we never kept any of our stuff there as my siblings would use it/ break it or mum would throw it out

I grew up feeling a guest/ nuisance in my mums house and thought this was normal as well did not live there

is this the same for anyone else?

[TrinityRhino]

I dont feel that what you experienced was normal

my dss has a room of his own but if we didnt have the room for that he woukd still have a half room that would be his. he could and does leave his stuff here etc

[Xalla]

My DSD has her own room, decorated for her and filled with her stuff. She's with my DH a lot though. We have another baby on the way and have now run out of bedrooms but DSD still won't share. We didn't think it was fair for the eldest to have to share with the youngest so we're giving the biggest room to our DD2 and she will share with the baby.

[Petal02]

I agree that what's ideal isn't always affordable.

With us, DSS (who stays 2 nights per week) has his own room where he can leave his belongings. He starts Uni in September, and at that point I'll turn the room into a nice guest room (it needs to be fumigated first!) which obviously DSS can still use if he's around during the holidays.

[Kaluki]

We don't have enough rooms for them all to have a room each and priority goes to my two who live here. But when DSC stay we all swap around to make room for them.
DSS and DSD have wardrobes and toy cupboards here and their stuff isn't touched when they are at their mums.
As a kid I used to sleep on a sofa bed at my dads as they had a poky one bedroom flat. It was ok though - I never felt unwanted. It was never meant to be my home that was at my mums.

[purpleroses]

My DSC have rooms with us - though one DSS shares with my DS. My DCs don't really have rooms at their dad's though as his flat is too small. They do leave stuff there, have permanent beds and refer to it as home though. So it's possible to make a house you only visit at weekends into a home even if you don't have space for your own room.

[lunar1]

I had the same experience as you op, to the point where if I even left my toothbrush out I my bag when staying for a few days, the step bitch would hide it away within a minute of me leavin the bathroom.

We had nothing in that house and slept on the sofa, the spare room was a music room fgs!

When I was 13 and my brother was 10 she gave him an ultimatum her or us and the bastard chose her. Seen them twice in the last 20 years. She has done well for herself now and is quite a well known face in local politics where they live.

I often have nice dreams about exposing the pair of them, apparently they couldn't have children even though they tried desperately for years.

[ChasingSquirrels]

My dc's both have a room at their dads (2 nights a week and approx half holidays).

[superbagpuss]

I haven't seen my birth mother for over ten years
dh has never seen her

she is weak, her husband is a piece of work

[Petal02]

as a kid I used to sleep on a sofa bed at my dads as he had a one bed flat. It was ok though, I never felt unwanted, it was never supposed to be my home, that was at my mums

Good point Kaluki. I think lots of children quite happily consider mums house as 'home', and Dad's house as somewhere they visit. There's nothing negative about that, I think a lot of people who view the place where they spend the majority of time as 'home'.

[Frikadellen]

I used to mind but I think it was the blatant favouritism shown too in my case.

My father remarried and his new wife had a dd who didn't live with them. She had a room in my dad and his wife's house. My sister and brother who lived there also (obviously) did.. I slept in the junk room. even when the other girl was not there.. So there was this beautifully made up room for 1 child and me sleeping on a uncomfortable bed in a room that smelt of shoes..

when my siblings came to stay with us they slept in the other bunk of my room and I was expected to share all.

[Petal02]

I certainly don't think you can 'reserve' an empty room for a child who is non-resident if it renders other children having to be uncomfortable.

[superbagpuss]

petal02 can we say parent they lived with?

as my mum left home to live with her om I feel a little sad when it is assumed DC live with mum

my dad did a great job as a single dad until I got an amazing step mum

[Petal02]

Fair comment Bagpuss.

[olibeansmummy]

Ss doesn't have his own room, he shares with ds, but there's no way round that atm. He does have a proper bed, chest of drawer and storage for his stuff ( not really toys anymore).

[Mycatistoosexy]

DSC stay EOW but they have their own room. We only have two bedrooms so DS has to sleep in with us

[IneedAyoniNickname]

My dad only ever rented a room in someones house, (his sister and then his brother, then back to his sister) Islept on a fold out bed in his room. if me and my 2 brothers all stayed, is sleep in with dad, and they'd get the lounge floor. I remember having a toothbrush at dads, but can't recall about toys etc.

When my dc sleep at their dads I don't know what happens tbh. If they stay at his flat, I think they have airbeds, but from what they've said its a bedsit, so no room. That said, they've only been there once as he only has the flat so his gfs benefits didn't get affected by him moving in.
When they stay at her house, they sleep in her sons room, although I don't know what on.

When my own mum remarried, we moved to a bigger house as there wasn't room for step sis and step bro to stay otherwise. The new house, mum and step dad had a room, I had a room, brothers had a room, and step bro and step sis had the spare room. (it couldn't be officially there's as others stayed sometimes) the plan was to rearrange rooms, so me and step sis would have shared(what had previously been spare room), younger bro and step bro would share, and older bro would have his own room. Unless we had guests, in which case older bro would have to move to younger bros room, and I'd get his room. It sounds complicated but it would have worked. As it was, I moved out within 6months, with younger brother not far behind.

[Theydeserve]

My Dcs have a room in the other house.
They have no clothes, toys, personal belongings on the other house. All presents to Ex stay in our house and played with when he comes round.

God forbid anything belonging to his DCs should pollute the new utopian environment she is trying to create. I am still being criticised for leaving the clothes bag on the floor in the kitchen 2 days after my mother died and realised despite packing it, I had left it in the kitchen. That has been translated into me being uncaring, difficult and a bitch and not supplying the requisite clothes. Never mind I was billed for the 3 pairss of underpants and 2 pyjamas you bought for the DCs.

A space that they can leave stuff and trust it will not be stick in a balck bin bag by the bitch of the week would be enough for me.

[babyhmummy01]

We currently only have a one bed flat so dsc's have our room and we sleep in lounge when they stay. We are hoping to move as soon as dp and exw sell house so if we can get a 4 bed place all 3 kids will get their own room if not dd and dsd will have to share.

But, they have their own clothes, toys, books etc here and know that it isn't touched...hence Xmas chocs still.in the fridge LOL

Op think ur experience is horrific but I would hope it is a rare occurrence

[stepmooster]

I find this thread v interesting. Once DH's FMH home is sold and DC2 is born we're putting my 2 bed on the market so we can buy local to DSS. We will only be able to afford a 3 bed.

Our current setup is bunk beds and cot all in one room. DSS has posters up around his top bunk and he keeps lots of his stuff here. Actually anything he buys when with us. He never takes any back to his mums and we don't care if he did or didn't do that.

When we move DH wants our DCs to have a room each and DSS to either share or use a sofa bed. DH logic is why should DSS have 2 bedrooms and the little ones none?

Plus DH is hoping that when we move DSS can start coming over when he likes rather than strict EOW. EOW worked well when DSS was 7 but he starts secondary school soon and he's becoming a young man now. Ok he must call first, but if he wants to pop round for tea 3 nights a week and then go home to mums to sleep it won't be such an issue. We doubt as a teenager DSS is going to want to spend EOW cooped up with toddlers, we hope DSS can begin a social life and join some clubs as at present he doesn't know anyone his own age where we live and EOW contact means he doesn't do any clubs local to mums either.

I guess DH is wanting contact to be more DSS led in future. Welcome to stay over, welcome to leave belongings here. As long as he checks its ok to come over before he turns up I'm happy with that arrangement. We have young kids so its not like we have an active social life!

Does anyone see any pitfalls to this approach?

[daisychain01]

If children feel loved and welcome and wanted, then it is possible to mitigate the difficulties surrounding lack of space. My DSS ihas been told by his mother that his HOME is her home which was the former FMH and that he should consider his DFs house as somewhere his DF lives with me as DSM. This is in the context of a 50/50 residency order!! Despite that, I tell DSS that home is where the heart is and that if he so chooses then he has two homes ( this is so that I dont discredit his DMs word). He will always look back knowing he is loved in both homes. Of course he knows it already, his DF is a wonderful father! So even if a DSC doesnt have their own room, then the love will make things that much easier for them, plus a sensitive explanation as to why the situation has to be thus.

[daisychain01]

Stepmooster, you are doing your best, your situation is one where you have needed to try and accommodate the needs of your family as best you can. Perhaps a conversation with DSS to get his thoughts about your proposed set up may give him the chance to express any concerns which you can address constructively. Unfortunately you can't "magic" bedrooms out of thin air so you are doing your best to anticipate DSSs needs in the context of his growing maturity. It will probably be a situation that will evolve in its own way and at the pace DSS sets but you cant do much more than you are!

[purpleroses]

daisy - I always referred to my home with my DCs as their home, and to their dad's as "dad's house" but the DCs corrected me and refuse to call either house "home" because they have two homes! So wouldn't worry about what their mum says, it's up to you and your DH to make it a home for them.

stepmonster - the only problem I could foresee with your plans is that 11 might be a little young for just coming over when he likes - depends on your DSS and the setup with his mum, but my DS is 13 and would struggle to know what to do with that kind of setup really. He still asks me "whose house am I at tonight?" and expects me to give him an answer. If your house move coincided with a move to no fixed routine and him just popping by, that could be seen by him as meaning he no longer has a base there and isn't really wanted as part of the family. At 16ish, yes I think it would work (my nearly 16 year old DSD certainly exercises her rights to drop in when it suits her rather than necessarily following plans of younger DSC), but most 11 year olds I think would prefer a bit more of a routine. 11 is also rather young to be left without a sitter so it's possible his mum would appreciate a bit of routine if she wants to get out and have a social life too.