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Needles was at breaking point with a screaming 10 mo DD
Hear had experienced the magic of ONE unbroken night!
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Stitch was still having her sleep eaten by...erm...Stitch.
Poppy was pondering how the actual fark she was going to manage a newborn on top of BabyAmex's night time shenanigans.
And the desperate Elphaba had turned night duties entirely over to DH with mastitic results.
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ElphabaTheGreen · 11/06/2013 21:29
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NeedlesCuties ·
11/06/2013 21:51
Salut!
Not officially checked for reflux, although my DH is a doctor and doesn't think she has it 
I think she does, or something like it, so I've made an appt with her GP for next week.
I agree with the separation anxiety, as she's much more clingy during day too.
The truth of the matter is, she is just not a sleepy baby. Seriously I think that if I didn't put effort into getting her to nap or sleep then she really could just coast along and sleep a few hours in every 24. She just wants to PARTY!
DH is much more rigid than I am. Very keen to do CC, or CIO, and he can really switch off his mind for it to not trouble him. I'm much more of a wuss and can't listen to her cry.
PoppyAmex ·
12/06/2013 09:43
Ohh shiny new thread, good job Elph!
How's your DH holding up, Is it wrong that I feel slightly vindicated for you (albeit vicariously)?
I must say that, like yours, my DH is pretty good, but sometimes the only way to experience someone's shitty reality is to walk a mile in their sleep deprived shoes.
BaldLime I'm ok, considering the DD's new habit of waking up at 3am for the day. She's doing this every other day now, I might die.
I know exactly what you mean about broken sleep; the few times I slept in the guest room I woke up dozens of times. The little toads have us conditioned!
Stitch being back at home will help and she will sleep like an angel. You'll see! 
I wonder if MiniHear has cracked it?
Lucylookout ·
12/06/2013 22:44
Whaaaaat! Wow. How are things going tonight? I think you have just become my shining beacon of hope.
No change here. In fact separation anxiety at bed time and evening wake ups have made things even worse. But Elphaba, you have made my day. If he did it once he can do it again (and again) and if your DS can do it, so can ours
DreamingOfAFullNightsSleep ·
13/06/2013 19:32
What what what?! poppy, hear and elphaba, what fantastic news!!! And stitch I'm sure you too, once those ridiculous teeth are through.
It would be very wrong to say if you all graduate from this Fred and leave me I'll be miserable as sin wouldn't it?!
So, the clearly depressing news for me is I do have to Do Something and night wean isn't it? 9 wakeups before 10pm last night. He was basically being rocked to sleep, sleeping 5 min, waking again.. it is 10 days post MMR and both have the rash though, plus I ate more dairy chocolate so windy and unsettled Dt1 too. He never made it off a chest. Bloody fucking awful. He vomits if left to cry still, howls in the cot if you try to settle him there... Argh!! And he has been booted out of his and Dt2's room, months ago. Thin, crappy partition walls here though, you can hear him all over the house, never mind in Dt2's room.
Feeling very demoralized today. He won't have dh either.
Do you think if i paced/ rocked to stop him screaming and waking dd and Dt2 but to achieve night weaning that'd help, or just swap one sleep prop for another?
needles my dh is a doctor too, a GP. I have a good friend who is a paediatrician. I am a paediatric physio. Didn't stop us getting to 11 months before finally accepting Dt1 has reflux, despite both being prescribed gaviscon at 14 days old (though twas mainly for Dt2), and realising Dt2 was cows milk protein intolerant at 6 months old... Stopping dairy cured his reflux. Dt1 finally added in domperidone too and went dairy soya and egg free at 13 months. And has mostly stopped puking!! It did look behavioural to me . Everyone said "oh my baby screams and arches backwards too and wakes a lot" . Then I realised there were degrees of this and we were way worse than "normal". Neither of mine present as typical refluxers to me- until now, I've finally realized what all the little bits add up to. Good luck at the GP.
PoppyAmex ·
13/06/2013 19:56
Yay for MiniElph! Tell us about how great the night was
BaldLime you've been swapped for lemon-sole and strawberries, but at least your DC has good taste
Well done, Stitch! I bet it felt amazing to have a peaceful night; I have my fingers crossed you'll get a repeat performance tonight. Our bedroom is ridiculous just now: blackout roller blind, this (which by the way it's very effective but ugly as hell) and blackout curtains. We're living in Scotland and it gets bright very early, but not a chink of light is coming through those suckers! Anyway, I'm really scared to take her out of her cot/our bedroom in the middle of the night in case she gets used to it. I don't think I could cope with it getting worse!
Dreaming sounds like he's unsettled because of the MMR, poor little one and poor you! I don't know about night weaning, it certainly wasn't the silver bullet for us, but might work for DT.
From what I remember, it sounds like he only really settles on you, so I'd be very weary to start pacing/rocking to sleep in those circumstances. But hey, what do I know?
Let's ask Elph, Stitch and Hear - they're the graduates!
I have no good news, in fact it just keeps getting worse 
She's teething again and last night she woke up at 2:30am. For good. For the day. That was it.
HearMyRoar ·
13/06/2013 20:38
Gosh, well done minielph! Let have another one tonight.
Dd was awake at 12 again but this time I shoved drugs down her as soon as she wiggled so it only took 45 mins for her to settle again and no screaming. Annoyingly she did then wake up at 4:30 am and then go back to sleep 30mins before I had to get up for work
dreaming I think I am the ultimate in riding the mo fo out, or what one mn thread once called bls (baby lead sleeping) so I would have no hesitation in doing whatever works to be honest. I have done all the 'wrong' things: cosleeping, getting her up if she's not tired, flexible bedtime, feeding to sleep, 3am bread and hummus, rocking, joggling, singing...you name it really. And you know what? her sleep has never been better! so my completely unscientific advice is do whatever causes you the least stress as in my experience it makes not a jot of difference. And sort you dh out. won't really is not an option. He needs to find some way of helping you out, you are a team and you shouldn't have to deal with it all on your own.
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BaldHedgehog ·
13/06/2013 22:44
Congrats MiniStitch on the tooth.Now you're going to sleep,aren't you?Why I've never seen this rocker thing before?It would have saved my sanity life!Hope you're in bed and catching on sleep yourself.
Poppy whereabouts in Scotland are you?I'm in the Highlands :) so nights here aren't dark.Currenty waiting for the new window for DS room but the link you placed might solve the problem-thought about perfect fit blinds but they are quite pricey.
2:30 
hope you've had a chance of a power nap during a day?Any chance to let her play on the floor and have a kip nearby?
Needles that's a good decision.Once they now you mean business they sometimes stop playing up.Believe in your DH-mine is wayyyyy much better at putting DS to sleep.
Welcome Ruby :)
Dreaming I'll second Roar on DH.He's a parent as well so he should pull the finger out.
Elphaba must be still asleep...
I must say I'm definitely sticking to 1 child only!
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