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Long shot but anyone have any Crusades/Saladin resource sheets?

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 17:26

DSD (yr8) has lost a sheet containing resources about the crusades and Saladin. have tried ringing friends but no luck :( it's due wednesday but no chance of getting the sheet in the meantime.

it had 9 sources - pictures and quotes from what I can gather, and then a load of questions comparing the sources and their reliability, usual stuff.

she's decided though, that instead of just not doing anything, she would like to do a little mini project on it - any ideas or resources please?

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 17:35

Anyone?

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:05

Have you looked on the school's VLE to see if the teacher has put any resources on there?

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:11

Was the sheet from The Schools' History Project Series, Discovering the Past?
I've got the book here, could type you some quotes and questions from it if you want.

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 18:11

Yep, the school uses moodle but only for a few subjects, not humanities. A friend emailed her the questions but they are all specific to the sources on the sheet she's lost. Was hoping to find it online but no luck.

I've found lots of info about crusades/Saladin but they are all quite complex. DSD finds reading difficult so I'll be translating - not easy as I know sod all about this topic! I was hoping there would be simpler resources but I guess it's not covered in primary school.

She's going to make her own info sheet about it (they haven't had any teaching on it, just watched a video. Quel surprise Hmm)

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:13

Info sheet comparing the two key figures, Saladin and Richard?

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 18:14

It could've been! She doesn't know though. There were 9 sources, and questions like "compare descriptions of Saladin in sources 1 and 2" and "which person in the picture do you think is supposed to be Saladin?"

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 18:16

There wasn't anything on this sheet about Richard, but they have done a bit about him in class, so would perhaps be useful.

Don't suppose you have a scanner, I could pm you my email if so Blush

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:24

Oh bugger, it is the same text then, I don't have a scanner.
Want the quotes and questions anyway?

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:30

usna.edu/Users/history/abels/hh315/crusades/saladin.jpg

A description of Saladin by one of his advisors
'small and frail with a short, neat beard, his thoughtful and sad face would light up with a comforting smile that would put anyone talking with him at ease.'

Q1 Compare the portrait with the description, do they give a similar impression of him?

I can do some of the rest if it's any help.

9 questions, 5 written sources and 4 images.

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 18:33

If you could that'd be amazing! Thank you!

Things like quotes would be fantastic as at least she can analyse them. We already have the questions, it's the sources we don't have.

You're a star :)

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:35

Written by Baha-al-Din

'A scout came to us with a sobbing Frankish woman. 'Yesterday some Muslim thieves entered my tent and stole my little girl. I cried all night long, and our commanders told me, 'The king of the Muslims is merciful'
Saladin was touched and tears came to his eyes. He sent someone to the slave market to look for the girl. Less than an hour later, a horseman arrived bearing the child on his shoulders. Thus was her daughter returned to her.'

Q2 Read source 4. What did the Frankish commanders think of Saladin?

Q3 Was their opinion justified?

Q4 Do you think these sources give us the whole picture of Saladin's character?

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 18:40

Found this, it's got some of the images you need.

weblearn.ox.ac.uk/site/socsci/edstud/pgce/history/resources/med/_Saladin%20and%20Richard%20(adapted%20from%20SHP%20Contrasts%20_0026%20Connections).pdf

Next question is about the jousting picture.

Q5 Which figure do you think is meant to be Saladin?

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 18:50

Oh wow you are brilliant thank you so much! DSD is really happy, she's worried about getting told off at school but I reckon they will appreciate the fact that she's still wanting to do the work.

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 19:04

Source 7
Saladin offered to surrender the city of
Acre and the Christian prisoners, if
Richard would let the Muslims leave the
city. In return, they would give 200,000
gold pieces. As a guarantee that they
would carry out these conditions, they
offered as hostages all the important
men in the city. Saladin had one month to
hand over the money and the Christian
prisoners.
When the month had passed, Richard waited for three weeks to see if Saladin would keep his promise.
When it
became clear that Saladin had not taken
any steps to keep his word, Richard
ordered 2700 of the Muslim hostages to
be taken from the city and hanged. His
solders marched forward with delight to
take revenge upon those who had
destroyed so many Christians.

Source 8
If Saladin handed over the money, Richard was
meant to allow the Muslim hostages to go free, but if the money was not given they were to be taken into slavery.
When Saladin delayed in paying the money, Richard broke his word to the hostages.
He put his secret plan into effect,
even after he had received the money and the
Christian prisoners.
He and his army marched to the centre of
the Plain. Then they brought up the Muslim prisoners, more than 3,000 men in chains. They then massacred them in cold blood with sword and lance.
Many reasons were given for this slaughter. One was that they had killed them as revenge for the Christians killed by Muslims.
Another was that Richard had decided to march on Ascalon and did not want to leave behind him a large number of enemy soldiers.

Q6 What do sources 7 and 8 disagree about?

Q7 Whose side do you think the writers of sources 7 and 8 are on?

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 19:07

Source 9 is the picture on the link of Richard watching the execution of the Muslim hostages.

Q8 Which of the two accounts of the events at Acre does source 9 support the most?

Q9 Do Sources 1-9 show Saladin and Richard to be similar kinds of men?

Good luck!

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FreudianSlippery · 01/02/2011 21:18

Thanks so much. We pasted all the quotes/sources into Word and answered the questions underneath them, and I wrote a note explaining why.

MN to the rescue yet again! :)

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Goblinchild · 01/02/2011 21:20

I'm impressed your DSD was bothered enough. I hope her teacher appreciates the effort you both made. Smile

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FreudianSlippery · 02/02/2011 19:49

FFS! I am SO PISSED OFF. Angry

So DSD took the HW in today - it wasn't due til tomorrow but she was anxious about getting told off for losing the sheet.

Teacher didn't appreciate it at all and wouldn't even take the 4 pages we'd printed. Even though DSD had answered all the questions. She just gave her the sheet and told her "your answers have to be on the sheet".

I give up.

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Goblinchild · 02/02/2011 19:55

Sad Angry

Well, at least she'll really know her stuff having had to do it twice. It is that sort of unimaginative idiocy that puts students off certain subjects.
I still think DSD is admirable, as are you.
Teacher obviously has a pickled heart and ratty nature.

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FreudianSlippery · 02/02/2011 20:06

Too right. I rarely read MN posts out to DH but he wholeheartedly agrees with yours.

We are sorely tempted to complain, but DSD would freak out at the idea tbh, she's easily embarrassed.

Grr.

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