time to leave and getting cold feet....bit long please bear with me
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tried posting this early and the site crashed! so here goes again...
Have posted on lots of threads and taken advice and inspiration and hope from many of them, then read other threads about the realities of dealing with an ex-p, access, recriminations, money and so on and it frightens me to death.
Been with dp for nearly 4 years, we have a 2y daughter. the abuse started slowly about 18 months ago (feels like a life time) with him nitt picking, complaining about everything, my appearance, the house work, and some so petty they can't be believed - too many suds in the washing up water...and so on and so on.
He then lost his temper when i shouted back and shook me so violently i fell over.
Since then there have been several other aggressive attacks, dragged me down the stairs by my ankles, tried to strangle me while dd was screaming on the bed next to me - because he said i was a liar - i had fallen asleep with dd and hadn't come down to do the ironing.
There have only been a few incidents, but the verbal/emotional abuse is every few days.
Despite trying to reason with him, he still feels that he was justified cos lots of men get wound up by the housework and if I did it all when and how he likes it, then he would not get wound up. So he thinks its my fault obviously. - backed up by his mum who thinks this is normal, that i provoked him and because one time i hit back she says i am just as bad as him.
Anyway to cut a long story short, after months of put downs and him swearing I have had enough - just on sunday he sat with dd on his lap and told me I was talking shit - i am fed up of pleading with him not to do this and trying to get him to understand just how damaging it is for a young girl to see her mum put down like this. Then last night the penny dropped - he does know, he just doesn't care, he knows it upsets me, he knows I would rather bite my tongue than argue back in front of dd so he tries harder and harder to provoke a reaction out of me.
If I do answer back he then says - see you are loosing it, you are unstable, you are neurotic etc etc
Trouble is, after months of persuasion he is actually making a bit more of an effort to play with dd and she has at last begun to want to play with him. Is it too little too late?
I have the chance to buy into a shared ownership house, many many miles away - i will be giving up all my friends and family but it will be a permanent roof over my dd's head that he cant kick us out of (there is not a week gone by that he hasn't at some point said, do what i say or leave).
I am fearful of his reaction - he is so negatively affected by his parents - when they are away on holiday he is a different person, I know they will insist on vengence - they believe an eye for an eye and he talks a lot of being punished and punishes me - for example he ignored my birthday last year as punishment cos we weren't getting on.
The police have told me to move out and not give a forwarding address. This seems so drastic.
I have this dream that if i can get him away from his parents we would be able to start a new happier life. Am i barking mad?
I know I have to leave, enough people have told me. I just don't want to have to face the reality of it.
Is it my fault? if I did all the housework, never had any dishes in the sink or ironing to do, would he be nice to me? The house is tidy, there is always washing / ironing - i dont have a tumble drier and its often hard to get things dried. I dont have as dish washer and he doesn't like me to wash up during hte day (wastes water he says) but he gets annoyed when there is a pile of it after dinner. (i do wash up during hte day)
I am grateful i am a SAHM and that he pays the bills, but the cost seems to be my soul.
I want to be able to love him without bracing myself for the next barbed sarcastic comment. He said that he wants a loving woman - i said i used to be before you hurt me and shout and swear at me.
Just keep your nerve..... You're doing brilliantly. You're very, very brave.
But yes, it is easy for your DP to be nice via text rather than to your face ....

Just keep that thought of the Christmas Tree and your DD in your head....
well all packed up and ready to go, its been very hard, emotionally and physically, some very good friends have rallied around to help and so has my sister, and will try really hard to keep in touch once we have gone.
had many a serious wobble these last few days, especially as been getting lovely - even affectionate texts from DP - and before you all jump on me - I know its easy for him to text while away having fun with his chums - and its another matter entirely for him to say it to me in person.
Was worried that he was setting up to say - OMG look she's gone and left me and I've been so charming! So I called his parents today and told them I was going and that he knew all about it.
however, I remain hopeful that we ca do this and learn to be more civilised in the future for DD's sake - I am ever the optomist!
Practical tips and advice please as to what I do now - like oops forgot to redirect mail, so got to do that now.
MM - you are doing so well! You have been busy, girl. You sound very determined to carry this through and that's so important.
I'm so glad that you have a vision (Xmas with your DD), to aspire to. It's going to be good, you will be able to make it exactly how you want it, without anyone interfering and bringing you down.

Have you got the weekend to finish things up? And any friends around to help you?
Messymissy: Stay strong! You can do this.....
Just keep thinking of Christmas Day in your lovely new home with DD and a little tree in the corner and fairy lights all over the place and just being SAFE!

hello - thanks awsocute and stressed its so nice to know that there are other mums out there rooting for us.
been busy, had another removal firm in today who are a bit cheaper and will do more so going to instruct them. And my friend has very kindly volunteered to take a day off work to look after DD while the removal men are here.
Got lots still to do, and had an emotional wobble this morning, the removal guy was so sweet and kept asking me was I ok 'cos you look stressed' I nearly burst into tears, so nice to have a man be genuinely concerned and he was a stranger FGS!
Cant stop shaking but the thought of spending Christmas with DD in my own little house is lovely and is keeping me going.
She asked for Daddy this morning - taken 3 days for her to ask! but before I could reply she went - no talking daddy, no daddy stop talking.
Luckily I do know someone already in the area as we have been visiting over the last few weeks getting stuff sorted and I made contact with the local church and playgroup - always a good place to start to meet people. I know it will take a while but I keep reminding myself that at least I have made a start.
DD will miss her friends here, but we will visit and hopefully they will come to see us too.
Just dreading that he comes back early, but then remind myself that that would cost him money to change flights, so he wont do it!
Got to go now but will log on again later.
thanks again, I cant tell you how much this is helping me.
Are youokay? You're very quiet?
xx
Please let us know what has happened
What has fallen through? Can we help in anyway?
When you get to new place you need to make afriend there quickly. I did and never looked back. She protects me and helpsme stay strong. xx
Just read your messages and some replies. Got halfway through and had to add something.
Solicitor saying you have to give access. No you don't. Violent men do attack kids to get at mum look at cases in news of dad's killing them to get tomum.
They can advise you and you can refuse. Even if a court tells you that he can have access you can stillrefuse. They won't imprison you for it. Its why "fathers for justice" is about (that makes me laugh where is our justice.
You need to move and fast. You need to change everything. New phone, untraceable and leave no forwarding address. If you have already reported him to the police and they have advised you it will be recorded as an incident. Thats evidence especially if they have told you to get out.
Do it please...I'm terrified for you. He won't stop til you're a shadow of your former self and have no fight left. Then you'll be completely in his power.
My ex used toplay with other peopleskids and not mine or his own cos he knew it upset me that he could be solovely with them and not my DD's
He can be stopped and it doesn't sound like he is even interested in his DD just his power over you.
You're all your DD has and you need to protect her from him. GET OUT ASAP!!!!
Thinking of you always
Sending love and hugs
xxx
You can do it, messymissy! If it's too hard to move stuff, you can walk out with a couple of suitcases. I did. Household good and clothes are easier to replace than your sanity! I'm not sure which part of your plans have fallen though, but unless you've been afflicted with instant paraplegia, nothing needs to stop you (and not even then!) If it's the accommodation thing, go to a refuge - really, they're not that bad.
You're so close - you can do take this last hard step. Really, you're nearly there.