help dh wants to become a teacher in primary what does he need?

[trace2]

he as a degree in business and management but want to try to be a primary teacher, what does he need to teach and how does he go about it?

[stillenacht]

Great!!!! We need all the men we can get in primary ed. A GTTP programme I guess (I am a secondary teacher).

[trace2]

he as sent for some information but none is very clear! oh and thanks he is good with smaller children and very good at explaining !

[worzella]

I think the GTTP( Graduate Teacher Training Programme) is only suitable for people with several weeks experience in school and usually is done by teaching assistants who are already in school. A PGCE)one year post grad course) is a more usual route and that's what my DH is doing. It was hard to get on the course because of the ammount of applicants and he had had a fair amount of experience with kids (he ran a youth club) and then he'd spent 7 days in a year 4 class.
In terms of qualifications you need a degree and GCSE or equiv at C or above in Maths and Emglish. The TDA (teacher development agency) run nationwide courses for info giving and there's loads of info on their website. It may already be too late for Sept 2010!

[littlemisslozza]

Grade C or above in English, maths and science to GCSE level. Not sure about the business degree leading directly to primary teaching, as it's not really a subject specialism for primary schools but perhaps they'd pick out the maths part or something.... one year course to train anyway I would assume, GTP or PGCE. look up www.gttr.ac.uk

[trace2]

thank you so much, he as all he needs as he as maths, English, and science all was b;s in GCSE . he is going to ask our ds school after holidays if he can do some days in school helping.

[Clary]

PGCE apps for primary starting in Sept (it's a year's training course as a rule) close at start of Dec IIRC, so he'll have a good time now to get some good experience in, to apply by Dec 2010, to do PGCE 2011-12.

[JustAnotherManicMummy]

The hide of a rhino and nerves of steel!

Best of luck to him

[trickerg]

Wrong info being given above about GTP programme - this is training on the job. Great course! Here's the link:
www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/thetrainingprocess/typesofcourse/employmentbased/gtp.aspx

[EvilTwinsStoleSantasSleigh]

He will need as much experience working in a school as he can get. My sis has just applied, and been turned down, by two places for GTP. The application material specified at least 2 weeks working in a school environment. She did half a term and was turned down due to lack of experience. My Dad works with one the major teacher training institutions, and says that GTP and SCITT courses were originally designed for people who were already working as unqualified teachers within schools, and wanted to bring their qualifications up to professional level (not as uncommon as you might think). These sort of courses are incredibly popular and places a limited by the number of schools who will take people on. During a GTP or SCITT year, the "student" pretty much works as a teacher, on unqualified teacher salary, and isn't really given the same allowances as if they were a PGCE student. If your DH has no prior experience of working in a school, then I would advise that he looks at PGCE courses AS WELL as GTP/SCITT, and maybe applied for both.

[trace2]

thank you he as been reading what you all put, and like i said going to ask around schools here to help.

[MissGreatBritain]

I've just been turned down for 2 PGCE courses . I am due to graduate in June, and spend half a day a week in school (voluntarily) helping with reading. I'm hoping that it's due to too many applicants rather than my age (42). The applications for next September needed to be in by the beginning of December, but I think you can still go through the clearing process. There's more info at www.gttr.ac.uk. Hope he gets on to a course, he sounds like he'd be very good at it.

[mrz]

www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/thetrainingprocess/makingyourapplication.aspx

Postgraduate teacher training

Already have a degree? Train to be a teacher in one to two years.

• Postgraduate certificate in education (PGCE)
  
• School-centred initial teacher training (SCITT)
  
  Employment-based teacher training
  
  Train and qualify as a teacher while working in a school.
  
  
• Graduate Teacher Programme (GTP)
  
• Registered Teacher Programme (RTP)
  
• Teach First

[trace2]

thank you that's sounds so much easier to read !

[caen]

Many unis want at least two weeks observing in a primary school prior to applying but not all. Most men will get a place because there is such a shortage and his degree would make him a good candidate for a maths specialism (you usually have to specialise in something and maths also doesn't have enough applicants). The autumn deadline date is the date before which the uni must consider your application. For 2010 best course of action now would be to phone any uni he is interested in and ask about avaiability and whether they would consider the application without school experience if he does it prior to the course commencing. Hth.

[swill72]

Our GTPs haven't been put to work as teachers, nor should they be; they've trained alongside teachers in the same way that more conventional students do. It's a really good way to train, as you learn on the job rather than in the classroom. All the GTP students we've had have had quite a lot of experience in schools already (none of them have worked as unqualified teachers though). Would really recommend it. Agree about the male/maths combo being a big help!

[mrz]

The whole idea of a GTP is the trainee is employed as an unqualified teacher by the school and works as such.

[mrz]

" You can complete the GTP in any eligible school in England, as long as they are prepared to employ you as an unqualified teacher for the duration of the programme. Independent schools can be involved in the GTP, but these applications would have to be self-funded. Pupil referral units cannot employ GTP trainees, or have any involvement with the training."
quote from the TDA