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Extra phonics help for DS who failed Year 1 phonics test

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zaphodsmum · 24/07/2014 12:14

Hi, I need help figuring out about how much and what help to give DS age 6 with phonics, going into year 2.
He failed his year 1 phonics test, but got 2b in reading. I have concerns of dyslexia. I myself am dyslexic with my greater problems being auditory, probable APD.
This presnets problems with me helping DS as I really striggle with phonetic sounds.
I have noticed that on other threads advice has been given to help and coach children if school are not doing anything. DS school as far as I know are not. Was only given report on last day of school so have not been able to ask about it.
He has other issues such as complete lack of confidence where he will not try to read because he is scared of failure, gives up straight away, gets very frustrated and angry and stressed.
Will not do any work at home for me whatsoever. He struggles with handwriting and has been given grips to help him. Also his gross motor skills are behind. He seems to lack the ability to relate to his peers but is fantastically verbal with adult.
So basically what resources are available for me to help, that's if I can and he is willing. And that if I dont do anything he is going to start to fail in reading as he gets older. Or should I not stress him out and leave it to school to deal with next year and re evaluate then.
Thanks extremely worried mum.

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mrz · 24/07/2014 14:08

What books can he read confidently without struggling (not necessarily school books)?

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mrz · 24/07/2014 14:11

Fine Motor Skills
Things to remember:
Upright working surfaces promote fine motor skills. Examples of these are: vertical
chalkboards; easels for painting; flannel boards; lite bright; magnet boards (or
fridge); windows and mirrors; white boards, etc. Children can also make sticker
pictures; do rubber ink-stamping; use reuseable stickers to make pictures; complete
puzzles with thick knobs; use magna-doodle and etch-a-sketch as well. The benefits
for these include: having the child's wrist positioned to develop good thumb
movements; they help develop good fine motor muscles; the child is using the arm
and shoulder muscles.
Fine Motor Activities
Moulding and rolling play dough into balls - using the palms of the
hands facing each other and with fingers curled slightly towards the palm.
Rolling play dough into tiny balls (peas) using only the finger tips.
Using pegs or toothpicks to make designs in play dough.
Cutting play dough with a plastic knife or with a pizza wheel by holding
the implement in a diagonal volar grasp.
Tearing newspaper into strips and then crumpling them into balls. Use
to stuff scarecrow or other art creation.
Scrunching up 1 sheet of newspaper in one hand. This is a super
strength builder.
Using a plant sprayer to spray plants, (indoors, outdoors) to spray snow
(mix food colouring with water so that the snow can be painted), or melt
"monsters". (Draw monster pictures with markers and the colours will run
when sprayed.)
Primary
Picking up objects using large tweezers such as those found in the
"Bedbugs" game. This can be adapted by picking up Cheerios, small cubes,
small marshmallows, pennies, etc., in counting games.
Shaking dice by cupping the hands together, forming an empty air space
between the palms.
Using small-sized screwdrivers like those found in an erector set.
Lacing and sewing activities such as stringing beads, Cheerios,
macaroni, etc.
Using eye droppers to "pick up" coloured water for colour mixing or
to make artistic designs on paper.
Rolling small balls out of tissue paper, then gluing the balls onto
construction paper to form pictures or designs.
Turning over cards, coins, checkers, or buttons, without bringing them to
the edge of the table.
Making pictures using stickers or self-sticking paper reinforcements.
Playing games with the "puppet fingers" -the thumb, index, and middle
fingers. At circle time have each child's puppet fingers tell about what
happened over the weekend, or use them in songs and finger plays.
Place a variety of forms (eg. blocks, felt, paper, string, yarn, cereal,
cotton) on outlines
Match shapes, colour, or pictures to a page and paste them within the
outlines
Primary
Self-Care Skills
Buttoning
Lacing
Tying
Fastening Snaps
Zipping
Carrying
Using a screwdriver
Locking and unlocking a door
Winding a clock
Opening and closing jars
Rolling out dough or other simple cooking activities
Washing plastic dishes
Primary
Sweeping the floor
Dressing
Scissor Activities
When scissors are held correctly, and when they fit a child's hand well, cutting
activities will exercise the very same muscles which are needed to manipulate a pencil
in a mature tripod grasp. The correct scissor position is with the thumb and middle
finger in the handles of the scissors, the index finger on the outside of the handle to
stabilize, with fingers four and five curled into the palm.
Cutting junk mail, particularly the kind of paper used in magazine
subscription cards.
Making fringe on the edge of a piece of construction paper.
Cutting play dough or clay with scissors.
Cutting straws or shredded paper.
Cutting
Use a thick black line to guide cutting the following:
A fringe from a piece of paper
Cut off corners of a piece of paper
Cut along curved lines
Cut lines with a variety of angles
Primary
Cut figures with curves and angles
Sensory Activities
The following activities ought to be done frequently to increase postural muscle
strength and endurance. These activities also strengthen the child's awareness of
his/her hands.
Wheelbarrow walking, crab walking
Clapping games (loud/quiet, on knees together, etc.)
Catching (clapping) bubbles between hands
Pulling off pieces of thera-putty with individual fingers and thumb
Drawing in a tactile medium such as wet sand, salt, rice, or "goop".
Make "goop" by adding water to cornstarch until you have a mixture similar
in consistency to toothpaste. The "drag" of this mixture provides feedback to
the muscle and joint receptors, thus facilitating visual motor control.
Picking out small objects like pegs, beads, coins, etc., from a tray of salt,
sand, rice, or putty. Try it with eyes closed too. This helps develop sensory
awareness in the hands.
Midline Crossing
Establishment of hand dominance is still developing at this point. The following
activities will facilitate midline crossing:
Encourage reaching across the body for materials with each hand. It
may be necessary to engage the other hand in an activity to prevent
switching hands at midline.
Primary
Refrain specifically from discouraging a child from using the left hand
for any activity. Allow for the natural development of hand dominance by
presenting activities at midline, and allowing the child to choose freely.
Start making the child aware of the left and right sides of his body
through spontaneous comments like, "kick the ball with your right leg." Play
imitation posture games like "Simon Says" with across the body movements.
When painting at easel, encourage the child to paint a continuous line
across the entire paper- also from diagonal to diagonal.

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zaphodsmum · 24/07/2014 15:23

Hi, Thanks Mrzfor fab list. We have tried many of these things, some with no luck, others for a bit but he can be so resistive to suggestions. School gave us some resources, a grid thing that you could thread a lace through but he decided it was boring. Some putty but he keeps losing it. We do use scissors a lot and selotape and he loves to draw. Bought him Write from the start off Amazon but could not get him to do it regularly. He said it hurt his hand, it was boring, everything I do becomes a battle.
As to what can he read, well at school they send Ginn 360 books level 6 or 7. Which he read at home no problem. I think in school with guided reading they use more mondern books but have no idea what level he is on. On oxford owl ebook site he could easily read the purple band books. At home I am currently reading horrid henry to him and I ask him to read a page every now and then. He is good until he comes across a word he does not know and then he gets very angry and refuses to do any more. As for comprehension, I will ask him questions and he has brilliant understanding, he gets the subplots and can easily predict what is coming next. I have just bought him batman phonics books off amazon too, but he has gone away with MIL for a week so will have to wait to see if they engage him. Do you think I really need to do extra work with him over the holidays or just wait to see if school bring anything up in year 2, his yr 2 teacher is SENco. And I have raised my concerns with her and she says she will be observing him. Also they want to bring in an outside agency to observe him in social play next term. Thnks

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mrz · 24/07/2014 17:07

Ginn 360 won't support phonics in any way, as you are discovering when he encounters new words ... it appears he hasn't got an effective strategy as the school are using a very old Look & Say scheme.

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zaphodsmum · 24/07/2014 17:57

I am sure he is not sounding out properly. When he reads at home he says the whole word out. I have tried to trick him into reading words on labels and saying its to small can you read it for me please. He seems to get hard ones right and the easy ones wrong. He just does not want to read for me at home so becomes difficult to gage how much he knows. He gets into one topic and will not have anything to do with anything else. Its horrid henry at the moment so I can not read anything else even if I go to the library he will refuse to look at anything else. I have just bought batman phonic books and he is into batman lego so hopefully he might have a go with them. At school I think they read in class a proper phonic scheme as he tells me its not the same as the ones he brings home.
Does it sound like he has not been taught phonics well, or is there something else going on.

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mrz · 24/07/2014 19:54

The type of assessment used in the phonics screening check would be useful to identify his "problems". Using non words will pick up whether he has an effective strategy for reading unfamiliar words ... what length of words he begins to struggle with ... which sound/spellings he does/doesn't know. www.spelfabet.com.au/2012/12/nonsense-words/

Teaching phonics and sending home Ginn360 is poor practice.

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zaphodsmum · 25/07/2014 10:36

Thanks. Just been looking at website. Interesting. There is a lot to think about and quite a few resources available. I have decided to be inventive over the summer and try and work out how well he is doing and go through some phonics with him. I think I will take him to the library as well and see if he will choose some books. The bug club comics for phonics look good. I read adult comics a lot as well as books and I had hoped my love of books would of passed to him. I suppose only time will tell. Thanks again.

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Beepbeepnow · 26/07/2014 09:50

Teach your monster to read is a gd place to go. It's games for the child. They progress further as your child achieves

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Pigriver · 27/07/2014 01:08

Bizarrely some children just don't get phonics! He is an advanced reader though so just keep up with that at home reading whatever he likes.

If he complains that his hands hurt when trying to write. Then yes he does need to continue to develop strength in his hands.

Toe by toe is a well used programme to help dyslexic children read, might be worth a look.

There are lots of good apps and YouTube tutorials on the phonics sounds maybe watch and get to grips with the different sounds and how to practice (sorry to sound condescending but lots of parents do struggle) ask the school what program they are following so you know what is coming up and keep practising the sounds he knows/has learned. Do they send home spellings or display sounds of the week in class so you can practice?

From personal experience as a SENCO there needs to be a big discrepancy in his learning e.g between reading/writing/maths/verbal skills before assessments will even be considered. Many LEAs will it test for dyslexia and parents often pay for private assessment.

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mrz · 27/07/2014 08:14

Personally I wouldn't recommend Toe by Toe for young children Bear Necessities is a much more accessible and easy to use.

It may be worth asking your GP for an occupational therapist assessment for physical difficulties/pain when writing.

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zaphodsmum · 27/07/2014 09:47

Hi, Thanks everyone again. I think one of my major problems is trying to encourge him to do something he finds even slightly difficult. He gives up straight away if he cant do it. This means he wont try climbing frames, party games (his reasoning if he does not play he does not lose), board/family games, lego ect. Got him a batman book, and because the writing was slightly smaller than his writing in books he has at school he said he could not read it and hurt his eyes. He gets extremely frustated and stressed so I back off. This means that he tends not to challenge himself in anyway. He is very inventive with excuses, and can think of an excuse for everything.
I did approach GP and explain my concerns as we were seeing her already about daytime wetting. She told me however I would need a report from school before she would consider anything. School were still doing obsevations. So I am at a stand still now until September at least.
On a more positive note he went on BBC bitesize yesterday and flew through some of the exersizes and really enjoyed it.
So will have a look at the recommations and see how he goes over the hols. Thanks

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mrz · 27/07/2014 10:29

GP doesn't need a report from school and should be taking your concerns seriously.

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Pigriver · 27/07/2014 18:08

Yes toe by toe is more ks2 really.

I would continue trying to encourage him start off super easy to get his confidence up and just move tiny steps at a time. What subject does he love? It is usually maths in my experience so we would do lots of maths that involved recording numbers, patterns, colouring in etc as they though, this is easy I can do it, it is just a way in really.
Good luck

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Ferguson · 27/07/2014 19:26

If you look in MN Book Reviews, "Children's educational books and courses" section, you will find the Oxford Phonics Spelling Dictionary, and a link to view sample pages from it.

It presents words in a different way, concentrating on initial SOUNDS, not necessarily letters, and is attractive, easy to use and could just help you both.

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Mashabell · 28/07/2014 07:40

Do you think I really need to do extra work with him over the holidays or just wait to see if school bring anything up in year 2, his yr 2 teacher is SENco.
zaphodsmum
I really don't think so. He can do with a good break over the summer.

Carry on reading to him by all means, making it as much fun as possible.
If he wants to do a bit - fine. But try to stop before he gets stuck over a word and gets cross. If he does, reassure him that he will get there in the end, especially with a new teacher next year.

I bet all the words he gets stuck on are spelt trickily in some way. U can blame his difficulties on that.

Please let him enjoy his summer hols as much as pos.

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mrz · 28/07/2014 10:47

Do you know his score in the Phonics Screening Check zaphodsmum? Unless it's very low I would wait to see what the school plan to do to support him next year.

Masha do you know where good/poor readers/spellers part company? Clue ...It has nothing to do with "tricky" words.

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mrz · 28/07/2014 11:01

I would work on his physical problems because you can include them into lots of summer holiday activities without them becoming a chore good luck

ARM AND SHOULDER GIRDLE STRENGTHENING
Children need to have stability at the trunk and shoulders so they can
use their hands effectively. Think of a crane or a large digger – your hand
is the end part of the crane or digger – the grasp part which is dependent
on all the other parts being secure and firmly under control otherwise whatever you do with that hand, it will be very hard to make it behave the
way you want it to.

Sports:
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Any kind of climbing activities (e.g.: in adventure playgrounds, climbing
walls) or that involves whole body and shoulder movement such as swimming.
Tai Kwando, judo, tennis, cricket, baseball etc.

Games and Exercises:
•
Wheelbarrow walking:

  • walk forward on straight arms whilst support given at the lower part of the body - gradually move support down from thigh to knee.

Try races and obstacle courses .

Wall Presses:

Stand a short distance away from the wall. Place hands flat at shoulder height on the wall. Lean toward the wall, keeping feet in place. Stop
just before your nose touches the wall. Hold for 10 seconds, see how many
you can do - try 10 at first and then see if you can do 20!

Statues:

Stand as still as a statue, get a helper to try and move you from your
position. Take it in turns and get the statue to move. Sit facing ... on a chair
and get ... to hold your thumbs with his arms out in
front of him and elbows slightly bent. One of you should be like a statue a
nd see if you can move the other’s arms and cause him to wobble.

Chair Presses:

Whilst seated, putting hands on the side of the char and
pushing to lift you up off the chair. Hold for 5 seconds.

In school I would do a circuit of activities each lasting 1 minute (use a sand timer)
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Mashabell · 28/07/2014 11:26

Mrz
The tricky words are certainly the reason why there are such big differences in all English-speaking countries between pupils who learn to read and write quickly and those who take a long time, or even don't quite get to grips with literacy at all.

They make literacy acquisition more difficult and much more time consuming. They create a much bigger learning burden. Pupils with better memories, especially visual memories, cope with them much better than those whom nature has less well endowed.

With more consistent spelling systems, learning to read and write takes much less learning, and so weaker pupils manage to cope quite well too, without needing extra help.

I've explained before: for reading it's not so bad, because only 1 in 4 pose words decoding uncertainty like ea or ough (treat threat, tough cough); for spelling just over half do (too do, two, blue, shoe...).

Teaching, especially the amount of teaching children get, makes a big difference, but it's only because English spelling is so irregular, that it does. That is simply a fact: when there is little to learn, children don't need much teaching; a bigger learning burden requires more teaching and takes longer to master.

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frankiejeh · 28/07/2014 11:34

Hi. I wouldn't get too hung up on whether or not your child has dyslexia or not. Different LA's have different policies on dyslexia and many simply choose to ignore it. At the moment he has a problem with phonics decoding. Your school will sort out support for next year because the government mandates that he has to retake the phonics test at the end of next year as he got a low result this year, and any failure to progress will not look good on the Y2 teacher.

This is what I did for my son who in Year 1 had diagnosed both dyslexia and dyspraxia and some developmental delay:
Booked a sight test at an optician - yes, he needed glasses.
Bought him a PS2 with exciting age appropriate games. That fixed his fine motor skills nicely - his handwriting is still awfully scruffy though.
Took him swimming every week for 2 years to strengthen core muscles and shoulders. That fixed his 'flappy paddle running' gross motor skills and core strength problems. Replaced it with Tai Kwan Do later.
Got him lots of books which he was interested in, regardless of reading level. Encouraged him to read every day (and he still does) skipping over any word he couldn't work out.
Read to him, especially when he didn't want to read.
Showed him how to use the spellchecker on a laptop.

He is now in GCSE year with predicted grades of A in both English and Maths. I was stunned! His spelling still isn't great, but he knows to spell check everything.

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mrz · 28/07/2014 11:40

My question was "Do you know where good/poor reader/spellers part company?" and the answer has nothing to do with "tricky" words masha ... would you like another attempt?

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Mashabell · 28/07/2014 11:57

No, Mrz, I don't. I am not sure what your question is, and I certainly don't want to argue with u. I thought i had explained where good/poor readers/spellers part company?.

Would u care to explain?

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mrz · 28/07/2014 12:12

I bet all the words he gets stuck on are spelt trickily in some way my question is related to your earlier statement masha ... children don't struggle with words like said or was or come or me or could ...

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bronya · 28/07/2014 12:34

For the OP - I would download 'letters and sounds', write all the sounds down on bits of card, and go through the cards. Make a note of the ones he doesn't know (or does know, if it turns out he knows very few). Then use a phonics app or website (e.g. Mr Thorne videos are free on his website) to make the learning more fun, and learn a new one every day/week (depends on his memory skills). For each new sound he learns, practice making words with that sound using the cards you have. E.g. if he's learning 'ou' you could make round, sound, found etc. Some of those words he'll have memorised, but he won't know them all, and will have to sound out those.

For the sounding out: use those cards you just made (just use the ones with the sounds he knows, to start with). You can make words with them - get him to say the sound on the card you pick up one at a time, then blend at the end. E.g. t - r - ai - n = train. Then challenge him to do the same with simple words at first (e.g. cat) then more complex ones. Help him if he gets stuck e.g. what is the first sound in 'cat'? Do you think it's a curly 'c' or a kicking 'k'? Let him make it himself, then ask if it looks right. If it doesn't, discuss with him what you could do to change it (e.g. swap a k for a c).

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Seryph · 28/07/2014 14:27

I have to say Zaphodsmum what you have written sounds a lot like Dyspraxia to me. Aching hands from writing especially, and having trouble with bladder control too. I don't know if 6 is too young for a dx though.
I definitely remember going through the not wanting to try things incase of not being able to do it. I was older (about ten) when that started; but it's still with me now. You get so used to being laughed at for not being able to catch, or hand write or whatever that eventually you just give up. It can help to see that you get things wrong too, after all, if a grown up can't do it well, then there can't be anything wrong with me!
I agree with the others, try not to push too hard. This could be a good time for a trip to local museums or zoos; see if anything sparks his interest that you can then go and buy fact books and activity things. (Thinking along the lines of astronauts, dinosaurs, the ocean, etc etc etc).

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mrz · 28/07/2014 14:54

No 6 isn't too young which is why a referal to a Paediatric Occupational Therapists would be my first move as a SENCO.

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