No progress / only one sub level. How acceptable is this? KS2

[stopthinkingsomuch]

As title says, I just wondered what everyones thoughts were on this.

[juniper9]

Expected progress is 3 sub levels within two years in key stage 2, so one sub-level progress in one year is not counted as a problem, unless it happens for more than one year.

Which year are you talking about?

[curlew]

What year and what levels?

[Taffeta]

If its Level 3, it's probably fine. Level 3 is huge.

[juniper9]

Especially the 2a to 3c jump, and especially in year 3 as year 2 sats results always seem massively inflated (at least in my school)

[stopthinkingsomuch]

He's year 4, maths 3a

[Taffeta]

I wouldn't worry personally. 3a means he is working at the top of that level but not yet at the next. But it may be that the teacher wasn't teaching L4 Maths in the class, which is a different ball game.

[mam29]

Taffeta your comments worry means as there could be so many kids out their who dot get opportunity eg if teacher only does level 4 with top table.

That was my worry last year with dd year 2 that being on bottom table for maths and literacy that they would write her off and never expect greatness

Sometimes the nc levels like self fulfilling prophecy that that child has one bad year they limited for years to come.

[Dixiefish]

DD2 (also Yr 4) went up one sub-level in maths from Yr 2 to Yr 3 but has now gone 3 sub-levels between Yr 3 to Yr 4. Same maths teacher so it's not sudden genius teaching! The teacher said it was actually very common for progress not to be even, so I think you need to see at least 2 years of data before worrying.

[chicaguapa]

I would second most of these comments. Monitor the situation and expect to see some progress during the next year. Based on experience, I would mention it during the year at parents' eve if you don't start seeing some movement, rather than leaving it to the end of the year.

[lljkk]

I wouldn't give it a second thought. Honestly. They aren't robots, their brains weren't programmed according to govt. targets.

[clam]

Would you worry if they only grew 2cms in height this year, as opposed to 5cm the year before? Or would you put it down to the fact that children have growth spurts and plateaus?
Don't worry yet.

[simpson]

I was told my yr3 DS was going to make no progress in his writing this year (finished yr2 on a 3C). I had several chats with his teacher about it.

But he pulled it out of the bag at the last minute and got a 3B and I am really proud of him

[DeWe]

Also if they're levels, it depends on where they are in the level band. If he just scraped a 3b last year and is now right at the top of 3a, then he'd could have made more progress than one who was right at the top of 3b last year and scraped a 4c this year.

If you look at it as marks (which it's not) as:
21-30=3b
31-40=3a
41-50=4c

So bottom of 3b=21, top of 3a= 40: 19 points difference.
Top of 3b=30, bottom of 4c=41: 11 point difference.

So the levels tell you something about progress, but not necessarily give a full picture of how much progress has or hasn't been made.

[Elibean]

My Y4 dd, weirdly, has made 3 sublevels of progress in her writing and only 1 level of progress in her reading. Her reading is great, and she's a level 4 so I'm not worried in the slightest - but was a bit as to how her writing had caught up with her reading in terms of levels, as it appears to have done.

But I absolutely agree that children are not computers, and learn in spurts - perhaps this is proof of it!

[Elibean]

Sorry, 'only 1 sublevel in her reading'