want DD to get a place at a school en route to my work rather than close to my house - will it work?

(19 Posts)
charlottenina Fri 10-May-13 21:25:41

currently we both work full time. DD is going to reception - we got a place which is 2 miles away from home - opposite direction to my work... not happy with this, so now want to apply for a waiting list in a very good school en route to my work. The scenario would be: I travel 30 min to my work, so I would leave the house 7.30, getting DD to childminder near school 7.45 am, then get to my work 8.10 am. after school - DD would stay in after school club OR chidlminder near the school and then I would pick her up at approx 5.00. In case of late meetings at work, my DH would pick her up on a tube and travel with her back home on a tube. I just feel that in this way, DD would get a very good school + I would enjoy taking her in the morning and picking her up. PS: I have another one 1 year old DS and he would stay with the Childminder where we live and attend preschool where we live... I would apprecite if someone share their experiences of choosing the school en route to work rather than local school.

Pyrrah Fri 10-May-13 21:35:50

If the school is undersubscribed then you should be able to get a place, otherwise you will have to join the waiting-list and are likely to be low down on the list as distance will still be measured from your home address.

tiggytape Fri 10-May-13 21:49:23

In theory, that is a totally sensible idea but you might have to accept the chances of getting her into a "very good school" a 15 minute drive from home could be fairly minimal.

Usually, the waiting lists you'd have the best chances on are for schools very close to home or less popular schools which either have spaces already available or very few people wanting to go on the list.

Waiting lists are held in admissions order so those living closest to the school will be higher than you on the list. No matter how long you remain on it, anybody who moves into the area closer than you do will go above you on the list. If "very good" also means very popular, your chances of ever getting to the top of the list might be very slim.

charlottenina Fri 10-May-13 21:57:51

this is the faith school and they said that this year they did not get enough faith candidates and if I applied earlier - I would get a place (I am so gutted that I did not put that school on my choice list!!!). please let me know if this idea would potentially work?

scottishmummy Fri 10-May-13 22:02:06

don't school go by catchment?youve been. allocated by residence not workplace
I do think it v unlikely LA will accommodate your work needs over catchment
like everyone else you'll need to make arrangements

AuntieStella Fri 10-May-13 22:04:57

If it's travel by Tube, OP must be in London and lots of London doesn't have catchments. It'll be take your chance on the waiting list by distance, and perhaps also look at going on the waiting list for any other schools closer to your home than the 2 miles in an inconvenient direction.

scottishmummy Fri 10-May-13 22:07:13

if there no catchment how does la. determine eligibility?

AuntieStella Fri 10-May-13 22:20:52

By ranking the applicants against the published entrance criteria and offering places to those who fit them best. Only one offer is made, so you get your highest preference. Anyone left without an offer from any f there preferences is allocated nearest school with a vacancy - which might be an inconvenient fit with commute, as seems to have happened here.

tiggytape Fri 10-May-13 22:21:30

charlotte - if it is a faith school that you would have qualified had you listed it then actually you do stand a better chance on the waiting list.
You will be higher up than anybody who doesn't meet the faith criteria and possibly above siblings too (you'd have to look at the school's precise admissions criteria because the waiting list criteria will be identical to that).

Of course that still means you have to wait for someone to turn down their place before you can get an offer, even if you are number 1 on the list. And you would want to know how many people (if any) are above you on the list plus how many children are in reception
eg being number 1 on the list for a school that takes 90 in reception is much better than being number 5 on the list for a school that only takes 15

scottish - most schools use distance from the house to the school and those living closest get higher priority but there's no fixed catchment - once the school is full it won't take any more.
eg if 30 children live in a block of flats next to the school then people in a house 150 metres away won't get a place.
Faith schools can be different. They are allowed to give priority to people who attend church / have children baptised so people living further away can get priority over those living closer to the school

tethersend Fri 10-May-13 22:33:06

Whilst undoubtedly convenient, it can be hard for children to have all their friends living far away as they get older, so I'd give that some thought. I'd also want to consider the probability of my staying in the same post for the next decade.

BabiesAreLikeBuses Fri 10-May-13 23:49:54

Tethersend i was about to make both those points!! Mine are at school out of catchment as it's convenient, i work there, but i accepted that to do this i would have to make conscious effort socially with having friends round etc

noramum Sat 11-May-13 10:25:55

I travel through London and would never take my child into the tube during rush hour, sorry that maniac for a small primary child.

Also, what if you have the day off or you are sick? You still need to do the whole trip. When we recently all had the flu I was able to get a neighbour to take DD, saving me a stressful walk to school as I was in no condition to drive.

It will also restrict the play dates, not all parents are happy to ferry their child across town. What is with after school clubs? Parent evenings? Social occasion with other parents?

Chocovore Sat 11-May-13 11:39:20

What is the situation with regard to siblings? Will your second child get priority. You don't want to risk 2 separate schools.

meditrina Sat 11-May-13 14:26:23

15 minutes drive in London could actually be less distance than the currently allocated 2 miles, couldn't it?

tiggytape Sat 11-May-13 17:38:22

nora - but OP's situation is that no local school has a place so either way she will be forced to travel for school.
At least this way it means going in the same direction as she goes for work
The allocated school is miles in the opposite direction.

Picturesinthefirelight Sat 11-May-13 17:57:32

We've done this and it works brilliantly but it is a private school.

I drop the dc off at school at 8.30 (playground opens 8.30 for 8.45 start then I'm at work by 8.50. My start time us 9am

I leave work at 3pm and I'm at school by quarter past.

It also means if Snything happens like they are ill I can be there in 10 mins instead of half an hour.

nulgirl Sat 11-May-13 18:03:53

Be careful with this approach if you have more than 1 child. My friend did this and got her eldest into a school 45 mins away but very close to her work. 2 years later she has not been able to get her second child into the school and they have been given a place at their local school. She is now faced with either pulling her eldest out of her school where she is happy or having 2 kids at different schools miles and miles apart.

dixiechick1975 Sat 11-May-13 21:27:21

Picturesinthefireflight I had to check i'd not already posted - I do almost the same timings with DD in a private school near work.

The perks of school being near work are

I spend time with DD in the car to and from school

If we get a call from school DH or I can be there in 10 mins

Less time out of work for assembly or sports day

Friends not a problem as children come from wider area due to it being private - 3 live very near us though

I can work more hours and still do drop off and pick up

charlottenina Mon 13-May-13 14:30:05

thank you for all ideas - it helps me a lot. I just really liked the school en route to work. But on the other hand, it is porbably wise to get school nearer home. I will put my son on both lists and see which one comes up earlier - that will be the school for him. I am overthinking it now... so maybe just have to leave it and see what happens

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