Found out DD went to a netball match and was left unattended, wwyd?

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npg1 Thu 07-Mar-13 18:30:37

We pay for private education as we thought it would be better, however I am having serious doubts.

2 DD's aged 10 and 6yrs old.

DD enjoyed school until yr3 and then it changed for some reason. She doesnt like PE and is in the D team (A-D teams, A being the best.) The school doesnt see to focus much on the D team, they are just shoved to the side. The a's get loads of help and support and always playig matches. Im not too fussed as DD isnt the sporty type.

Yesterday they went to a school about 25 miles away for a netball match. They were taken down there on a coach with 2 teachers and all the teams. When they got there the D team were left at the sports hall with the other team from the school which was a B team. The teacher then said she was going outside with the other teams and other teacher! They were then left to play a game on their own with no support and got thrashed 31-1 with no guidence and taunting from the other team.

I only knew about this because the head master phoned me this morning and apologised and said it should have never had happened and it was completely wrong and the situation is being dealt with. I didnt say much at the time because I was in shock but now im totally fuming and dont know what to do. I am awaiting an email from one of the mums which has gone to the headmaster.

Any help would be great please

ravenAK Sat 09-Mar-13 22:07:20

If the HT is ringing around parents to apologise, it's probably safe to assume that the teacher concerned is getting THE most almighty bollocking.

I would wait & see how it's dealt with before banning your dd from going to away matches.

npg1 Sun 10-Mar-13 12:27:15

Thanks for your replies.

Yes dd was distressed and upset and she is a sensitive girl so this has knocked her confidence. I have decided I am pulling her out of the school at easter. I think it is unacceptable and I think the school isnt right for dd anymore. Im just wondering about how we will get around it because we have to give 1 terms notice. But surely its a breech of conduct.

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 12:38:24

Can I just clarify - were there teachers from the other school in charge of the match that your DD was involved in?

Or was the situation that there were no adults in attendance?

Tbh, I would say that if there were teachers from the other school present, then the fault is with them, and it is with the other school that you should be raising the majority of the complaint.

npg1 Sun 10-Mar-13 12:40:26

There was 1 teacher from the other school's side. Yes I understand that but there should have been a teacher from our school rather than them going to support the better teams

outtolunchagain Sun 10-Mar-13 13:00:34

Tbh I think it is normal practice for teachers to split the matches up between them. You must have greater concerns than this otherwise removal is a massive over reaction. I think it is very unlikely that they would waive a terms notice for this reason.

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 13:45:48

So there were probably 4 matches to referee (A, B, C and D). Your child's school sent two staff. The other school probably provided 2 staff, or maybe a couple more. Your child's match - the D one - was refereed by the other school's staff, while other matches were refereed by your school's staff. Where is the problem?

npg1 Sun 10-Mar-13 13:48:43

Because at every match we always have our teacher refere our matches and also for support and encouragement

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 13:52:05

So the fault of the school is not sending 4 teachers with 4 teams. What other matches were on that day? Are there enough teachers to manage that? Could 4 teachers be spared for these matches without jeopardising other teaching / other matches elsewhere? ust because you would LIKE there to be 1 teacher per team does not always make that possible.....

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 13:52:47

(And why should your teacher referee always - how is that fair to the other team? Surely they deserve to have their teacher referee sometimes??)

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 15:06:24

If only 2 teachers were available, for 4 teams, would you have preferred
a) The C and D teams not to have been sent - perpetuating what you complained about in your first post, that the A & B teams get more opportunities to play matches or
b) Teachers from the other school to referee two of the 4 matches?

Given that the matches were played on a Wednesday - a school day - and that presumably there was a full teaching load for the staff remaining in school for the afternoon, would it be better for the refereeing to be shared as described in b) OR for classes expecting teachers in school that afternoon to be taught by supply teachers or 'covered' in another way? You do seem a little unreasonable in the demaind that a teacher should be devoted to your child's team of ?7 or so even if it meant that classes back at school had no-one to teach them...

I presume you must have other, more serious issues with the school to be taking DD out at such short notice, but IMHO you have no chance of them waiving the term's notice if this is your stated grounds.

clam Sun 10-Mar-13 15:45:42

And you'll have a very hard time proving breach of contract too.

And to whoever it was saying that the Head should "apologise more." How, exactly? By saying " really sorry," instead of just "sorry?"

titchy Sun 10-Mar-13 15:54:44

Tbh I think you're being rather precious. I thought from the title of your post she was abandoned. In actual fact none of them were - you're just miffed that a teacher from the other school was in charge, rather than one from your school, and that your pfb child's team were slaughtered by a better, albeit nastier, team. Hardly your HTs fault!

What would your reaction have been if your dd's D team had beaten the other school's B team? Just as Furious?

Verugal Sun 10-Mar-13 17:07:23

Very precious reaction.I was in my school D team for Netball in year 6 and we were thrashed by a year 4 B team from another school. I don't recall any lasting trauma.

If a child is in the D team for Netball it suggests they're not very good at it. I doubt that the outcome of the match is really going to have much effect on her Netballing achievements. I'd just use the incident as an opportunity to talk through taking the rough with the smooth and acknowledging that failure happens and is ok.

My inability to throw or catch a ball didn't have a huge impact on my later life choices and general well-being.

clam Sun 10-Mar-13 17:09:05

I'm curious as to why anyone is surprised that a private school has spent its time concentrating on the fittest/most able/talented. Isn't that what you pay for? hmm

rabbitstew Sun 10-Mar-13 17:17:00

teacherwith2kids - do you really think it's reasonable to take 4 teams to a school only fielding 2 teams, an A and a B team? And then to leave an unsupervised D team to take on that school's B team while 2 of your teachers supervise the A-team match with the other school also supervising that match? And what was happening to the B and C teams during all this? Were they just playing against each other instead of the other school??? It all seems a bit bizarre to me.

Or maybe the other school did have more teams, but the teachers choosing who played against whom can't tell the difference between the letter B and the letter D???????..... biscuit

titchy Sun 10-Mar-13 17:26:22

Rabbit they WEREN'T unsupervised!!!!

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 17:36:40

Rabbit, the OP has confirmed that they were supervised and refereed by a teacher from the other school .

rabbitstew Sun 10-Mar-13 17:41:58

If I were a teacher expecting a D team to play against a B team, I would NOT leave them to the other school's teacher to deal with on their own, given that I would KNOW they were likely to be outclassed. What is the teacher at the other school supposed to do about that when she knows nothing about the abilities of my school's players????? She has no way of evening it up and making it more fair. Fine if you have two B teams together, but why on earth put the D team against the B team??????? That doesn't seem remotely like adequate supervision to me. Babysitting, yes, but not giving the person responsible the ability to make a fair match out of it.

Notquite Sun 10-Mar-13 17:56:11

If primary school netball where the OP is is anything like secondary netball here, I can see her point. DD was grasped firmly round the throat and told to 'fuck off' by an opponent last year, under the nose of the teacher/umpire from the other team. Her exerience generally seems to give the lie to the notion that a) netball is a non-contact sport and b) that umpires are there to ensure fairness.

I don't really know what to make of your specific complaint OP, but if you're pulling her daughter out if the school I'm assuming there are other things you're not happy with?

WishIdbeenatigermum Sun 10-Mar-13 18:05:15

THEY WERE SUPERVISED
You are coming across extremely badly. Unless there are underlying issues you have no chance of having the notice fees waived but they'll be delighted to get rid of you.

teacherwith2kids Sun 10-Mar-13 18:07:39

Rabbit,

I had assumed that:
Teacher 1 is with A team
Teacher 2 is with B team
Teacher 3 (other school) is with C team and
Teacher 4 (other school) is with D team

because, otherwise, as you say, there are 2 teams left completely unsupervised.

The B team for the other school may be a mistake, may be a B team from a lower year, there may have bee a round robin in which the different lettered teams play one another...certainly nothing to get so het up about that the OP is withdrawing her child....

rabbitstew Sun 10-Mar-13 18:14:15

But the OP has made it clear that her DD has not been happy at the school since year 3. She is now 10. So this is very clearly the icing on the cake.

Coconutty Sun 10-Mar-13 18:19:15

Are you looking for ways to get out of paying a terms notice op, because I don't think this will be a good enough reason?

I would complain if one of my DCs attended a match without a teacher being present at their match.

jo164 Sun 10-Mar-13 20:03:27

Either a mistake was made and the wrong teams ended up playing eachother - or the opposition school put out 2 different year groups with an A and a B team in each (perhaps years 5 and 6). The D team could have been playing the younger year's B team. Whatever the situation, they were supervised in what is a very usual manner - it is a very lucky/rich school that can afford to send a member of staff with each team when 4 are playing at the same time. I don't think that this is something to complain about. It sounds like the teacher umpiring could have been more helpful to your school's team and made her pupils behave in a more polite manner. I can't see how this is going to get you out of giving the school a term's notice? It is a very minor thing to pull your daughter out of school for - but perhaps this for you is a final straw? You are however being unrealistic if you expect all teams to have their own menber of staff at matches. Perhaps you should check this out at any future school before sending your daughter there if it is this much of a deal breaker.

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