What would you think if this was happening in your y3 child's class?

(187 Posts)
RunnersWorld Sat 09-Feb-13 15:13:18

And what, if anything, would you do?

One of the children is very disruptive, including bouts of physical and verbal violence, e.g.:

-Throwing chairs
-Swearing at the class and teacher
-Tearing up his own and others' work
-Pacing around the class when they are supposed to be working/listening
-Walking out of class meaning the teacher has to leave to bring him back
-There have also been two complaints from children/parents about him touching girls inappropriately (now has 121 at lunchtimes, so is constantly watched)

At least one from this list happens daily, once it was so extreme that the teacher had to remove the rest of the class from the room while two TA's tried to calm him. School was unable to contact anyone to collect him so he spent the rest of the day in the Head's office, as the TA basically refused to work with him. He's big for his age, strong and scary when he loses control.

My DS2 is in this class. I know all the detail because of my job, most parents of course will only have patchy stories relayed by their DC, but they all know there is a problem. To avoid drip feeding, I will also say I know that he is a very damaged child as a result of sexual abuse and currently living with a foster family. Other parents know nothing of this of course.

I am interested in an opinion from the POV of the parents who know nothing of his background, please.

nt children assult eachother all the time ?

Yes and many get expelled for much less than this child has done. I think that shows just how much that school is trying to help this poor boy and that they are trying their hardest to fulfil their duties as teachers and to inclusion laws.

They may be failing but they sound like they r trying.

tethersend Mon 11-Feb-13 17:46:09

Assaults on children and staff are unacceptable.

Evacuating whole classes is unacceptable.

But it is not a case of putting up with this or going to a special school; there are other solutions.

If I had my way, all teachers would receive mandatory physical handling and behaviour management training, and would be unable to teach without completing a course of proper, certificated training. Schools should be able to access adequate funding to support children with these kind of difficulties.

It is also worth bearing in mind that the child in question is in care, and different legislation applies to Looked After Children when it comes to exclusions etc. The child may or may not have SN in addition to any emotional and behavioural difficulties resulting from trauma, but it is not certain that he has any SN at all.

HotheadPaisan Mon 11-Feb-13 18:41:32

Nowhere special but I know the bullying that goes on, ironically others are only starting to speak up about it because of the action I am taking to stop S1 targetting or being targetted. They are not supervised enough at playtimes imo, there should be much more structured, supervised, co-operative play. I hate the 'leave them to it' nonsense, you wouldn't with kids this age at your house so why is it ok in schools?

Agree there are a number of things that could be done that aren't as extreme as ostracising an abused child who has already lost his family. When these children get excluded or encouraged to leave the local school you exclude their families too.

mrz Mon 11-Feb-13 18:55:57

You wouldn't let an eight year old play independently?

HotheadPaisan Mon 11-Feb-13 19:07:12

Unsupervised, in a group?

mrz Mon 11-Feb-13 19:07:46

At home

HotheadPaisan Mon 11-Feb-13 19:10:32

Anyway, these are all younger and it's not going well and hasn't been for a while.

HotheadPaisan Mon 11-Feb-13 19:20:35

Out of hearing?

Ironically there is a thread on SN right now about these issues from a parent of a child with SNs.

mrz Mon 11-Feb-13 19:28:55

Yes out of hearing ...say playing with a train set/scalextrix in own room

Fairenuff Mon 11-Feb-13 19:42:36

nt children assult eachother all the time

Not in year 3 surely? This is not my experience. By that age, children have learned appropriate behaviour.

HotheadPaisan Mon 11-Feb-13 19:49:36

Like I said, I was referencing a younger and specific group, I hope it changes by Y3. But I wouldn't leave S1 out of hearing, he is constantly supervised at home and has to be, especially around S2.

My point is that other kids are experiencing other issues and no-one is taking them up and I think someone should. I know one parent who will now because the things she was telling me her DS said were going on sounded like closer supervision was needed.

HotheadPaisan Mon 11-Feb-13 19:54:36

I see pushing, shoving, name-calling, teasing and picking on kids going on all the time, maybe it is just this age but I think it should be stopped. Which brings me back to why I have requested playtime support for S1, I don't want him targetting others, and he needs help with social skills, but there are other DC without SEND who need this guidance too. If he gets the support others will benefit too but parents with concerns should be requesting this too.

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