Do the staff at pre-schools normally change nappies?

[Bubbaloo]

Ds1 starts next week,just 2 1/2 hours a day,twice a week and have been told that they don't change nappies there.
Tbh,he probably won't need changing and obviously I'll chamge him before he goes,but when I mentioned it to a friend today,she thought it was rather odd.
Just wondered if that was the 'norm' amongst mosts pre-schoools.Her ds goes to a nursery twice a week,where they change him if need be and she said she thought all pre-schools would do the same.
Thanks.

[hunkermunker]

Are they Ofsted registered?

[pooka]

Some do and some don't.
DD's did, but my nephew had to be out of nappies before starting his, and I know of other people who would have to go in to change if poo-ey nappy.

[moljam]

i worked in a preschool before having ds 2.ofcourse we changed nappies!what happens if he needs changing?will they let him just stay wet/dirty???
did you ask why they dont??very odd imo.
is it a proper preschool?

[Bubbaloo]

Yes,I believe they are.

[MerlinsBeard]

not in my experience

When DS1 went to playgroup (2.5 until 3.5) they would only change if it was "particularly offensive" ie if the smell was so bad that the other children were noticing. They preferred them to be potty trained in any case.

nursery and preschool are complately different

[purpleturtle]

I think there are some that do and some that don't. Facilities can be an issue, as can having staff available.

[pooka]

I think it depends on the facilities available at the pre-school. So some in say a church hall would not necessarily have adequate changing facilities. DD's was attached to a school and had large changing area and loos for the dry children.

[hunkermunker]

Then they can't discriminate against children in nappies.

DS1's old preschool (which will be DS2's soon) isn't Ofsted registered now (still excellent, just hasn't got fully qualified leader now) but they still change nappies.

Have you asked what happens if your son poos?

[Bubbaloo]

They mainly have over 3's and I suspect alot of them may be out of nappies.I didn't really question it at the time but just assumed most pre-schools were the same,til my friend said otherwise.

[hunkermunker]

DS1's preschool was in a church hall with loos off main hall and a changing mat on the floor in one of them. What facilities do they need to change nappies, fgs?!

[Bubbaloo]

It is in a church hall so maybe that has something to do with it,although they have been running for 27 years!

[moljam]

thats what i thought hunker.ds 1 friend was told to be potty trained before starting nursery but wasnt,they couldnt not take him as was discrimination.even if they are potty trained accidents happen-what then?

[Parsleypants]

I work in a preschool. We will of course change nappies if the child has done a poo, if it leaks or if it is so full it's sagging!!

[yurt1]

Some don't but there are guidelines that say they should, maintream schools too if necesssary I've written about it here and the surestart document I link to on there is very good

[eandh]

nope dd's doesnt she was out of nappies when she started but another little boy wasnt and if he poo'd his mum was called. Although the toilets are tiny and no space on floor to change them (is in church hall)

[hunkermunker]

No, the church hall thing is a red herring, imo and ime.

Can you look up their Ofsted report and see if it says anything about nappy changes?

They're happy to take your money for your son, but not meet all his needs?

[pooka]

I think it does make a difference to the registration they can have with Ofsted and the age range of children. Thinking about it, dd's place was actually called a day nursery, but ran in school hours and term times only. They were registered for a roll of 60, with max 20 per session of which only 4 could be under 3.

[tortoiseSHELL]

They can't discriminate against children in nappies. HOWEVER, I think the way SOME preschools get round this is to ask that the parent be available so that if they need changing, the parent can be phoned to come in and change the nappy.

Our preschool changed them

[eandh]

but they have spare knickers/pants and trousers and socks for any accidents (dd has had 2 whilst shes been there mainly because shes so busy having fun she forgets she needs the loo )

[moljam]

id find different setting.

[yurt1]

This is from that SureStart document I linked to, there's loads more useful stuff on there:

Facilities

Playgroups and schools are now admitting younger children, some of whom who, by virtue of their immaturity, are likely to have occasional accidents, especially in the first few months after admission. Current DfES recommendations for purpose built foundation stage units include an area for changing and showering children in order to meet the personal development needs of young children. There is also evidence that there is a trend for the parents of children with more complex needs to request a place for their child in a mainstream school. A suitable place for changing children therefore, should have a high priority in any setting?s/school?s Access Plan. The Department of Health recommends that one extended cubicle with a wash basin should be provided in each school for children with disabilities. If it is not possible to provide a purpose built changing area, then it is possible to purchase a changing mat, and change the child on the floor or on another suitable surface. A ?Do not enter? sign (visually illustrated) can be placed on the toilet door to ensure that privacy and dignity are maintained during the time taken to change the child. Clean, fresh water drinking facilities should be available at all times.

[nutcracker]

Dd1 lost a place at playgroup once because on her first day she was still in nappies so they refues to take her.

[yurt1]

oh how weird ds1 has just tried to wee in his dolls house toilet ffs.