OOh and Ellie all the attachment theory books I have read says that 1 year old is one of the peaks for separation anxiety, it's the time when they start giving strangers the hard stare- Mimi is doing it and it's very funny watching people trying to get her to smile (she does eventually as she's a happy soul). Mimi follows me everywhere and climbs up me like a cat. As you say it is lovely but I find myself finding inventive ways of getting a trip to the loo by myself (luxury )

Hello
Thank you, Daisy for yuor kind offer, would be lovely to meet up.

Twinks..so many people start these stories with "mine is no where near as bad as yours, but". If it's affecting you, your wellbeing, your relationships with other people, then it matters, and you need to do something to redress the balance. It's something to do with the parent/child relationship not having prgressed (in the mind of the parent) to adult-adult relationship. If it was a normal balance you would probably be able to shrug off her 'rod for your own back' blarney without a second thought. You should not have to apologise for her tantrums- and it is a kind of game- a power game. Sorry if I'm waay off the mark and I mean no disrespect to your family

Monkey thank you,too. Hope you are enjoying your girls together time! Filming in Africa sounds wonderful.

Ellie nurse buddy of mine is in quandry re SF jab- says lots of her colleagues have felt crappola after it, and she suffers from chronic fatigue so is very wary.

We are supposed to be decorating but DH is asleep upstairs and I'm..well..on here

ellilou the plum and I had SF jab on Thursday morning. My arm is still throbbing- it's really sore!! The doc told me even though it isn't a live vaccine, it's highly likely you will feel slight flu symptoms. Hope you feel better soon

Hi Lovely Ladies,
pinky for you having to go through this with your family, but you have a lovely little family of your own and I am glad you are looking forward to Xmas it will be fab!
hana hope things start to get better soon, counselling is very draining. Well done to F on the walking that is great
Happy Birthday Hamster hope you had a great day yesterday.
Happy Birthday to P, hope you had a lovely day also.
twinks hope your mother comes round soon and realises who J's mum is, someone on here said something months ago and it has stuck with me, I think it was pinky who said "its our turn to be the parents" was something like that anyway.
Also hope rutho's scan went well.
I had my SF jab on thursday and dont know if it's coincidence but have felt awful since, I feel slightly better today but last night my temp was 40 degrees and I couldnt get it down for ages I did have a slight cough before I went so may have been the start of the cold anyway. Millie is very clingy just now too, no one else but mum will do which is fine but when you just want 10 mins when your not well its not so fine. DH is home and she just cries if I leave the room to go to the loo etc, she had a viral thing at the start of the week but think she may have more teeth on the way.

evening all!
Sorry to those having DH troubles. Sparkletoes I can sympathise re. the light being switched on. Last Sunday night DH and I had an absolute humdinger over him turning the TV on and waking me up. We had a childish wrangle over the remote before I threw it so he couldn't reach it. I then blew my top completely and told him I didn't like him anymore. Sleep is v.important to me!! Men can be pigs.

So how did Rutho's scan go?

Congrats to Phee and Yorky on being PG!! When are your due dates?

Re. cycles, mine were highly irregular before DD was conceived. Ranged from 28 - 70 days - made TTC v.tricky indeed. Hence took 3 years.

Pinky really sorry to hear of your family issues. I know you've spoken of your relationship with your mother before. And Hana think you're really brave going to Relate. how is it going? And how is work going BTW? I'm very out of touch - sorry.

Am home alone as DH in Africa filming an arts festival so I am SAHM for a week - loving it.

The x-factor is on! woohoO!!

Ooh interesting.
Have replied

hey twink have sent you a message on fb.

Oh pinky that is just such an awful situation
I suppose she said you should have no other friend in order that she could have had complete control?

My mum and I are in the midst of a silly argument but I do feel that for this past year she has criticised me for how I dealt with J so much so that it has damaged our, ptherwise good, relationship.
I feel that it is about the control for her. In that with DD, I followed her lead and dealt withh DD as she saw I should, but with DS I have done it totally differently. She has not been able to handle that I did not do as I was told.
For months, every time I went to her house she woudl tell me that J was clingy simply because he was in the bed with me and I should get him out.
It was her mantra for months. I chose to ignore and breath through it every time, but she never let up until I finally did as she pleased.
I know in myself that I did it when he and I were ready but that is not the impression I allowed to to get.

My situation is nowhere near the level that you are with you mother but it is hard for me right now, trying to decide how best to move forward when every part of me feels like it is clawing for freedom from her constraints.

Sis said, 'it is just one of those mother knows best things, twink. She feels she knows best.'
I replied, that that is the whole point, that is being missed by my mum.
Yes mother does know best.
I am Js mother and I know best by him!
But will never be given the respect for that
I am exsaperated and don't know where to go from here.
But mums Bday is Monday and I am busy tommorrow so I am going to have to in today and bow down before her and apologise, so that I can maintain the peace.
It is all so horribly false.
A game I am tired of playing.

And I am petty to go on about my quibbles when you have such bigger issues.

and if jaunita is lurking, Happy Birthday P for Saturday. I'm pretty sure he was the 21st!

just quickly posting to say Happy Brithday Hamster <checks clock> for yesterday

and hugs to you both, Pinky and Hana, things sound pretty emotionally draining at the minute. Pinky, if you fancy popping over to Leeds or meeting halfway, I'm free on Wednesdays and Thursdays generally

struggling to keep up with things here; been clearing out for a table sale we are doing tomorrow, and bumble's sleeping is still haywore; although he made it until 5.15 am this morning. He only had a nap in the morning as well, so fingers crossed exhaustion will keep him asleep all night; need to be on our toes tomorrow.

LB, glad you aren't affected by the floods, but the weather your way looks to have been hideous. We have missed it all here; it's been a bit windy, but nothing like gale force.

will try and catch up properly over the weekend.

<waves madly to everyone>