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The 7th Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus - Now with highchairs!

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AGnu Fri 11-Oct-13 19:21:03

Old thread here

Bibs at the ready, things are about to get very messy! grin

Lorelei353 Fri 11-Oct-13 19:55:47

Yay. New bus! High chairs are definitely next on our shopping list.
Sorry I've been quiet. Not much to report. DS mostly behaving himself. wink

peardrop2 Fri 11-Oct-13 20:13:34

I know where I've been going wrong! I haven't stocked up on weekend -Friday night- wine. My wine rack is empty!!

FrussoNeedsGin Fri 11-Oct-13 22:41:05

Well I'm out at a bar watching/listening to Nick Tatham. The baby was asleep last I heard.

FrussoNeedsGin Fri 11-Oct-13 23:54:48

Oh dear, 2 pts of cider and I'm rather tipsy. grin

pear how can you have no wine?

lorelei I'm glad ds is mostly behaving.

Hmm. The boy woke up whilst we were out. And refused his bottle of fm. good boy, he knows what's best bed and snuggle time with my boy now.

lovely shiny new bus.

currently expressing milk, typing one handed, and listening to what could probably be our last thunder storm of the year. <sniff, sniff> Not ready for winter to be this close already.

jealous about this going out, frus! hope you had a great time!

we are going on a massive road trip to 5 miles away from canada this weekend. eegahds so much to get ready. plus i have to make an appearance at a birth and baby fair that my preceptor midwife is advertising a table at tomorrow, make 2 more meals to take with us, pack everyone's clothes, and pack up the car all by this time tomorrow night. <deep breath>

Marking place on new bus, up already as dh has been in the shit baby hearing bedroom for the past two nights and has come to get me because he obviously can't cope and has managed to get kitten awake at 5:30ish rather then 6:30ish for a feed quite an achievement angryconfused

Lorelei353 Sat 12-Oct-13 16:20:01

So, is anyone's little one self-settling? Is this actually a thing that babies do at this stage or is it really something I should be 'training' him to do? At the moment DS is either fed to sleep or bounced/rocked to sleep. He would never just be put down and fall asleep. I don't think he seems ready for it. Should he be?

peardrop2 Sat 12-Oct-13 17:12:58

Lor ~ I think the answer is yes he should be self settling. However, I also think its baby dependant. For instance my baby has real problems with wind and teething so now isn't the time to start training. If your baby is fine health wise and you feel comfortable about it then I would personally start the training because the longer you leave it the harder it's going to be, surely?

peardrop2 Sat 12-Oct-13 17:15:02

Lor ~ forgot to add that I am so happy to hear that someone else is suffering with rocking sessions sorry it has to be you! Why do you feel he's not ready out of interest?

peardrop2 Sat 12-Oct-13 17:24:41

A question to those who're weaning...how many ice cubes are you now giving? I'm giving one ice cube per meal but baby pear is wafting it down and I sense this is not enough? It is strange how quickly his appetite is changing because 3 weeks ago I could barely get him to take one spoon let alone 1 ice cube. Is anyone else's babies adjusting to the food this fast?

Lor, I don't think there's a firm yes or no to that answer, like pear said I think a lot is baby dependant, kitten will self settle a lot but there's times I know she won't and likes a little feed, a lot of times she's 90% asleep by the time I've finished feeding her at night, I do try when I know she's due a nap to put her down and see how she goes, sometimes she goes straight to sleep, sometimes she winged/crys for a few mins then sleeps then sometimes the crying escalates then I will intervene and probably offer a feed
Pear I use aprox 2/3 ice cubes and stop when she looses interest, I keep feeding if she wants more, yes they suddenly go from not taking a mouthful to wolfing it down, kitten grabs the spoon off me and try's to do it quicker pulling it, she was uninterested for a week now she's on 3 aday because was moaning when we were all having lunch, if he wants more definatly give it to him, if you look at first size jars etc from 4 months there's quite abit in and I presume that's a portion size as they go up, she has had a full Ella's kitchen pouch before but mostly has about 2/3rds of it

peardrop2 Sat 12-Oct-13 18:44:23

Oh thanks kitty that's so helpful to know! I'll give him two cubes tomorrow and see how we get on. The next question will be...how many cubes does it take to make them sleep through the night?! wink

Lorelei353 Sat 12-Oct-13 20:06:27

When I say he doesn't seem ready I just mean that anytime you put him down, even sleepy, he wakes up totally and starts kicking and wanting attention. He just seems to be a long way off being able to fall asleep. He's sleeping well at night most nights (2 feeds having gone down around 8pm and up at 7.30am). His naps during the day are getting shorter though - about 30 mins now. He wakes up sleepy and wanting more, but if I leave him in his cot he'll just get more and more awake and then get agitated rather than go back to sleep.

I'm wondering if I should start putting him down at night almost asleep and see what happens but I don't think I can cope with the crying if he gets too tired. Quite a few times in the last two weeks we've put him down at 8-ish but over-tired and he's woken within the hour and cried the house down. I just wonder if it's something that'll come by itself.

FrussoNeedsGin Sat 12-Oct-13 22:17:46

The next question will be...how many cubes does it take to make them sleep through the night?! you mean they're meant to sleep through the night? Could someone cc my dds into that one please. grin

Ds varies between a mouthful and 4 cubes. Depending on the time of day and what it is.

I don't rock. But I still haven't got round to putting him down. and when I do he wakes up. <frustrated>

I'm making bunnies.

I wish there was a fast and hard rule about putting babies down, but after 3, I can honestly say it depends on the baby and their temperament. We are currently lucky right now about M being easy going and happy to take naps and sleep. I can see this current arrangement going down the toilet within the next month or so though.... Ds2 didn't sleep through the night until he was nearly 2 and insisted on at least 1 feed a night. With Ds1 we did a cry-it-out because it was what MIL told us was the thing to do she also told me to switch to formula in retrospect I totally regret it because it was so heartbreaking to listen to. Trying to deal with babies and sleep is fecking hard! It just is really fecking hard. If your little guys want to be rocked to sleep, just keep rocking those little people. They grow before your very eyes and these days will go by in the blink of the eye (I know you hear this from your parents, but as a peer, you can trust me wink)

Bunnies?? hmm

Lor, how about trying to put him to bed abit earlier then? When they are over tired they will without fail get over wraught very upset and scratch etc, the clocks are changing anyway in a few weeks so you will be putting him to bed an hour earlier anyway and you'll probably find he won't wake any earlier, I wouldn't have a problem with rocking unless it was taking hours in which case I might start cutting it down, by say 5 mins every few nights? I think consistency is the key though, they do like routine so they know what's comming so if you decide to do something I'd try and stick with it rather then changing it after a few days and trying something else ( just remember though the first few days whatever you do differently they won't like just because they are used to something else so if you stoped rocking and just held they would probably be the same as it's different from what they know )

Lorelei353 Sun 13-Oct-13 09:21:00

We did an earlier bath last night and ten a feed, cuddle and story and then another little feed to fall asleep. No tears and he stayed down until feed time.

I don't really have a problem with feeding or rocking. It doesn't take long. It's just that you hear do much about self settling that I wondered if I should be doing something about it.

It sounds like the little routine you've got works fine for you, cross the bridge if you need to not just because someone else does it differently, things do adapt as you go on and factors change such as maybe stopping bf etc, so it will adapt if it causes you no trouble I wouldn't be concerned

FrussoNeedsGin Sun 13-Oct-13 11:18:41

Ds has been left with my friend and a bottle of formula. I am bursting. I've just had to hold dd2 whilst the hospital gas masked her. I feel sick. pic on fb of what dd2 has done

Lorelei353 Sun 13-Oct-13 11:42:02

frus it's awful. I haven't been able to bring myself to comment on the pic because I can't look at it! Poor dd2. Hope you're both doing ok. brew

FrussoNeedsGin Sun 13-Oct-13 12:30:48

I was making cuddly bunnies out of some fabulous fleece.
Unfortunately dd2 wanted to do sewing this morning. Woke up to a scream.

FrussoNeedsGin Sun 13-Oct-13 12:41:28

It was quite gross lore dd1 nearly puked. Dd2 was very good. but it helps if you don't have normal pain receptors

I had to break my self-imposed facebook ban to see what happened. Heart in throat. Oh my life frus. Glad she's ok! How are you feeling after a trip to the A&E? Thinking of you. xx

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