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Frizbe · 21/03/2006 14:19

Hi ladies, have created this to start our postnatal thread, so fire away!

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RosiePosie · 21/03/2006 14:56

Just whizzing by to say "hi!" - I hardly seem to have time to scratch my bum these days. Also been in bed all weekend with some kind of stomach flu, just what I need! Feeling totally wiped out and unable to do anything at the moment. Will catch up soon, promise! I haven't even written my birth story yet.

I'm a total physical wreck this time around. Having sailed through no.s 1 and 2 easily, I just can't seem to recover this time around. My stomach muscles are non existent and I permanently feel like I've pulled them, my pelvis still hurts loads, and I just feel so WEAK. The only thing that feels totally back to normal is my ladybits! Although I'm still bleeding quite heavily, over two weeks later. Oh, the joys! Hope everyone is baring up better than me. I'm sure it WILL get better. . eventually!

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CadMum · 21/03/2006 18:40

Friz: Thanks for the new thread. I fully undersand why you are not keen on posting a picture of LOs. My SIL was quite upset wth me for posting one of Charlotte. Can't help but think that she already looks so different that even my parents who were here until last Thursday, wouldn't recognise her. Denial perhaps. Blush I won't do it again.

RP: Hope you are on the mend from the tummy bug. I had it Thursday and Friday last week. Not what a new mother needs. Sorry that you are feeling tired and rough. The jump from 2 to 3 means that you and DH are out-numbered and that is reason enough to be exhausted even without SPD and tummy bugs. Be kind to yourself. Continue to rest as and when.

I am surprised by how much more heavily I am bleeding this week since I am doing NOTHING and last week I ran all across Manhattan the whole week...Go figure.

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Marne · 22/03/2006 11:46

Hi girls,
A bit of a mad night for us last night, found blood in saffrons nappie at 8pm and started to panic, phoned maternity and they told me to phone the doctor so we ended up having to take her in to the hospital to be checked out, anyway all seemed fine apart from the blood, doctor said she might not be able to tolarate cows milk but told me not to panic unless she looses weight he also found she had thrush in her mouth. Anyway she seems fine in herself and she slept alot better last night. Waiting for the midwife to come now so i can talk to her about what to do next and find out if i need to change to soya.

My infection seems to be clearing up and all looks a bit more normal down there, stopped bleeding already apart from a few spots, last time a bled for a month.

Hope you are all well and not too tierd.

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coppertop · 22/03/2006 13:00

Another one here making a quick visit.

Marne - I hope you get some answers asap about the possible allergy.

RP - I hope you feel better very soon.

I haven't even had chance to catch up with the other thread so am hoping the rest of you are doing okay. :)

Things are relatively calm here at the moment (touchwood!). Dd (it feels weird typing that!) seems to be a contented little soul. She's starting to get a little bit of jaundice so I'm trying to persuade her to feed a little more often. Atm she and dh have both fallen asleep so I've sneaked on here for a bit. :o

I'm still feeling a bit sore and stiff but generally okay. I think I'm still in shock from the actual birth though but I'd probably better save that for another thread.

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CadMum · 22/03/2006 13:51

Oh Marne! As if you needed anything more to worry about! FWIW DS2 and DD2 both had blood in their nappies once in the first week of life and it amounted to nothing. Very upsetting in ds2's case as he was poorly but they never found a reason despite blood and urine tests. With dd2, the pead. thought that it might be a sign of dehydration (uric acid crystals) as we were still having trouble with the feeding. Really hope that yu have answers soon and that it doesn't happen again.

Hello coppertop. Did you find RTKanga's post looking for you? Congrats on DD!

Am typing with one hand whilst BF so more later...

Hope you are all well.

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Frizbe · 22/03/2006 17:23

Caddy well done for typing whilst BF, I've not managed that one yet!
Marne, what a mare, hope it turns out to be nothing but a scare for you, fingers x'd
RP, hope you start to feel better soon hon, its surprising what the next one, or the next one can do to you, it seems to take longer to bounce back each time from what I can gather (hate to think what my grans afterpains were like after no8!)
Coppertop glad you feeling ok to hon
Right ladies, off to make tea into a reality for dd1 before I get badgered any more, will pop on again later if I get chance, phew!

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UniSarah · 22/03/2006 19:20

oh, new thread, top.
glad i'm not the only net head trying typeing with babe iin arms, not tried whilst bf yet tho, think it'd distract the boy even more and hes easily distracted, keeps falling off the breast mid feed.

scary how quik i've become a new parent, obsessed by the contents of nappies and cheering burps. need more sleep.
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Munz · 23/03/2006 18:11

evening all, am hoping to keep up with this thread better than the other one! lol. no time since joey's been born! the PIL week last week was a nightmare, althou Joey so far seems to have roughly slipped back to how he was b4 they came except for the blasted dummy (althou it's been scaled right down on last weeks episodes) we're manageing to roughly use the EASY method (v rough at the minute but he's got himself inot the food play sleep thing so it's not too bad)

BF is going really well, this week he's put on 1lb the little porker so he's now 8lb 13oz (I thought 11 oz in week 3 was good! lol) seems the stress of MIL down didn't effect my supply! lol.

we went out today to baby massage classes - it was nice, and the first time I BF in public I might add - I was nervous about doing it and he didn't latch to begin with but thankfully we got there. shame we didn't get to massage much as he decided he wanted to feed for the full hour we were there but it was nice to meet other mums none the less esp as DH is away this week

anyhow hope all's well with everyone,

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UniSarah · 23/03/2006 20:40

cor, well done on the 1 lb in a week munz, you must be doing something right. PIL are a bit stressy arn't they! I told my MiL in no uncertain terms not to phone so late the other day ( 10pm) as dh had just gone to bed and boy was about to kick off.
So now its 8.30pm and dh has just gone to bed! in the spare room. I had a 2 hour nap this afternoon. Our life seems to reveolve around gettiong sleep. The boy has proved he can sleep for 4 hours at a time, he just can;t do it at night. last night the getting boy to bed rigmarole started at 10pm and he gave in and slept at about 5am. Oh Joy. the 7 hours in between he spent screaming and squirming, or feeding and yelling depending on which of us was holding the fort.
At present hes alseep in his bouncey chair, but I know its not deep sleep as hes muttering and moving a lot, if I took him down to the bedroom his tilt switch would activate and he'd be wide awake. ho hum, I'll use teh quiet time to catch up on mail etc.
nappies arrived today - bimbles and bumbles, so its mainly terries from here on. Be nice not to be throwing away so much, our grey bin was the fullest its ever been this week. just watch the water bill rise instead!
unisarah

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Cadmum · 23/03/2006 20:58

Good to see you back Munz! I was starting to worry about you. Did you find Rom's announcement? (Will be off to check myself in a moment.)

I am clearly spoiled rotten with our little girl as she sleeps all night long in 2-4 hour stretches--in our bed mind... I gave up on the idea of a baby sleeping on their own 2 children ago. DS1 liked his own space but DD and DS2 just fussed and wiggled so I only put Charlotte in her own cradle during the day. Eventually she will learn to sleep on her own (or she won't and then my mother and MIL will feel vindicated when she heads off to college with mummy as a room-mate.Grin)

My MIL sent a really lovely outfit and some Beatrix Potter dishes for Charlotte yesterday. She also sent some little gifts for her brothers and sister. DS2's 'gift' was a pair of Sponge Bob pants (boxers to be precise) in a size that may fit him within the next 5 years!!! He was very confused as we don't allow them to watch television unless it is Discovery Channel or something of the like so he knows that Mr Square-Pants is off limits. Thankfully he thought it was intended as a joke so I saved the day by 'finding a tenner' in the package so that he can get his own wee gift. Can't wait to hear the phone conversation that ensues!!

Hope you are all well. Baby is fussing and children are calling me.... ARGH! I'm off again.

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Cadmum · 23/03/2006 20:59

Wish I knew where to have Charlotte weighed... Still haven't figured things out in the Big Apple. We don't have a health visitor/ Public Health Nurse. I think that I am really expected to take her to the pead for every little niggle... Anyone know? Friz?

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poppyh · 23/03/2006 22:43

Marne, hope dd is getting better now.Dont have much time to post right now!!Esme has gained weight, but her feeding is still very erratic.Can feed her every hour and a half right now!Feeling good though, hormones in check and love pushing my girls in their twin buggy!!Got out the house today which was an achievement in itself.
Lola has been great, she loves her sister and treats her like a little doll.Helps me with her bath every night.Still trying to potty train Lola but she gets hysterical about sitting on the potty so im guessing shes not ready.
RP, Munz,Friz,cadmum, hope you are all doing ok too.Sorry if ive missed anyone.Gotta go as Esme is waking up.God I need some sleep!!Grin
Take care

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RosiePosie · 24/03/2006 08:04

Hi everyone, I am SO not keeping up with these threads right now, so apologies if I haven't congratulated you on the birth of your baby! I'd forgotton what the fog of new babydom was like! But I guess atleast now I know it doesn't last too long!

Another bed-sharer here, Cadmum - I did it with dd, can't imagine not doing it now!

Matthew is not an easy baby - just like his brother was - fractious and grumpy - if he's not feeding or asleep, he's cross that he's not! DD was so placid and easy going in comparison.

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catj · 24/03/2006 08:34

Hi! Just to say I am here but I haven't posted much cos things are going pretty well in comparison and I feel bad saying so. I'm sure things will kick off though when dh goes back to work and I've got to manage the 3 on my own!

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Frizbe · 24/03/2006 08:58

Hi all very quick one, as dd1 demanding breakfast now!

Munz I had the same probs with massage class! only if dd wasn't feeding, she was wanting to sleep and not be massaged!

Unisarah, good luck with sleep, it'll happen in the end...just takes a bit of time with some of them (not that you want to hear that....)

Caddy Good on your MIL with the prezzies, not sure re the weighing thing, I'll ask my doc mate! and get back to you

Poppyh, hurrah at getting out of the house Grin makes you feel a lot better doesn't it!

Have a great day ladies will try and pop on later hi to anyone I've missed not intentional just busy!

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Cadmum · 24/03/2006 15:18

Hello! Hope you are all having a good day and looking forward to the week-end. Isn't that when we get to sleep all day and then have a long bath?!? Thankfully, I have just stepped out of a long hot shower and Charlotte is still sleeping peacefully. Following on two days of endless feeding and fussing so I can officially put it down to a growth spurt. Thanks heavens she is feeding much better or that would have been a nightmare! I can hardly believe that she'll be three weeks tomorrow; where has the time gone?

RP: My mum mada a very big production about me having the baby in bed with me. She actually really upset our DS1 (8) by buying \link{http://babybungalow.com/arreacmincos1.html\this}. He is convinced that this amounts to neglect since he, his sister and brother always slept with mum and dad. He can't bear the thought of her being in there all by herself. (Haven't found the courage to tell him that before he was born my mum bought him a proper cot and that he slept in there for his naps and when I was not in my bed...) I can't imagine that Charlotte'e paediatrician would be very pleased about our sleeping arrangement since I was instructed to have her in her own bed sleeping on her back.

Must run to help DD and DS2 out of the shower...

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Astrophe · 24/03/2006 15:48

Hi girls, glad to hear you are all juggling kids amazingly well...its a a bit of a blur though at the moment isn't it? How do we forget so much from one baby to the next? Its the looooooong feeds that have surprised me all over again.

UniS- think our boys have been getting together sharing tips on how to keep their folks up all night! How old is Ed now? Eli is 15 days...hoping for a speedy resolution to his napping at night issue! Little rascals aren't they!

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UniSarah · 24/03/2006 18:43

RP- I like the description of mathew, I think our Ed maybe similar, if not feeding or sleeping he can't decide what to do and frets and works himself up to a paddy.
' - Yes Eli and Ed have been skill shareing , Eds 14 days so V close in age.

Health Vistor came today- Ed weighed in at 9lb. which was good news, bummer was that she was rather down on our sleeping arrangements ( I have been co sleeping with him) and concerned that hes not learning to sleep flat as his day time naps are mainly in a rocker chair . So I gave myself grief this afternoon by trying to get him to nap in the moses basket again. Hard to say who was more upset by the whole afair, me or the boy. I was probadly the more tearfull, not enough sleep is taking its toll.
UniSarah

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Cadmum · 24/03/2006 20:50

Uni-Sarah: I have co-slept with all four of mine but NEVER told a health visitor! They are far too knowledgeable to handle such information. They may have confusing stats to back up their information. My advice: You do NOT have to listen to what they have to say in such matters! He is your baby and you are a capable mature adult who is capable of making her own decisions. \link{http://www.askdrsears.com/html/7/T071000.asp\This} may help you feel better about your choices. (I know that he is very American but he does have 8 children of his own as well as a huge peadiatric practice as well.)

Our health visitor told me that our 5 month old DS should be eating the same things that we were eating. Her exact words were "bung it in the whizzer and feed it to him". I nearly went into shock because in Canada, the recommendation was to introduce one food a a time from 6 months. Thankfully, he was our third so I fhad igured out that rather than disagree or try to 'teach the health visitor' that I would nod my head like a silly mummy and then go home and do my own thing.

Let your health Visitor have a paddy before you or your son have one!!!

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RosiePosie · 25/03/2006 07:21

I believe ( and I think there is research out there to back me up, if I could be bothered to look for it ) that providing you're not ill, you don't smoke and you don't cover the baby with duvets and pillows, that co-sleeping is perfectly safe. In fact, sleeping next to mum helps regulate the baby's breathing. I'm very sceptical about all this latest research and stats which say NOT to co-sleep. A considerable proportion of the babies who died in that research were babies of smokers, or the cosleeping was done unsafely - on a sofa for instance. Cosleeping is the norm, worldwide. And I don't believe in bad habits for babies either. My dd shared my bed until she was 8 months, then moved to a mattress on the floor, then into a bed by herself at 18 months, no problems.

Cadmum, we had one of those bedside cot thingy's. . very handy place to put my clothes Wink

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Cadmum · 25/03/2006 13:03

RP: The Co-sleeper is a great night-stand for DH. His Blackberry lives there! Wink

The link that I posted backs up your thoughts on co-sleeping. I could never try to 'convert' someone who thinks that it is a bad idea but I find it very upsetting when HV or doctors try to tell new parents that it is unsafe or a bad habit.

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RosiePosie · 25/03/2006 14:25

Yep, agreed. Apologies to anyone if I'm coming across as holier than thou - that's not the intention at all. Of course, people must parent how they wish and and how they feel comfortable - but I do hate it when health professionals give misleading advice.

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Cadmum · 25/03/2006 14:55

RP: I hope that you didin't think that I thought you were holier than though... I really appreciated the back-up because I am likely coming across that way! Sorry from me as well. I agree that parents know their own chlidren best and are the only ones able to make decisions regarding their parenting style. Nobody should be judged by health care professionals or other parents for that matter but judging is human nature so those who go 'against the flow' need to either smile and ignore the advice or fight an almighty battle.

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Frizbe · 25/03/2006 16:26

Lol re the not co-sleeping stuff, just do what works for you is what I reckon, sometimes babies just need their mum, and nothing anyone else can recommend will do! Caddy bless your ds1 Smile
Think we've had a spurt too mind you! dd2 has also taken to feeding for slightly longer than she had been doing too, typically just as I was telling a mate, she was a quicker feeder than dd1 was as well Grin, you do forget quickly tho don't you Astrophe.....
Hope your all having good weekends, typically dd2 has just woken up as I've logged on, but dh has taken her for a walk around the house, have a feeling its feeding time tho! so ttfn

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RosiePosie · 25/03/2006 17:21

No worries, Cadmum - I didn't think that Smile - sorry, I am SO tired today I can barely string a sentence together, so I'm probably sounding a bit deranged, or at the very least, rude and blunt, lol. 3 weeks of sleep deprivation has finally well and truly caught up with me!!

I just wish I could bf lying down, because I was so tired last night I fell asleep twice whilst feeding, sitting up with the light on - only to come around two hours later each time with a start and a baby still on my lap..... mmh, I suspect that's how NOT to cosleep safely!

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