IS THERE A SEPT 2005 CLUB YET?

[pooka]

Hi all fellow September mums. If I'm duplicating another thread please tell me. If not, would love to hear how everyone is getting on.
Tom is a week old today. All well - though has a slightly infected cord stump so am going to GP today.
I'm still madly hormonal, could burst into tears whenever I think about the impact all this has on my lovely dd (2y2m).

[morningpaper]

Hi Pooka, just popping in from the due-in-October thread (I'm due in 2 weeks). Congrats on your baby, I hope it is going well. I've got a nearly-three year old dd too so I'm biting my nails about the transition. Good luck! xxx

[ych]

Hi Pooka, Joel is 4 days old today. I know what you mean about being hormonal. I can't stop crying at the slightest thing. Last night breastfeeding was so sore due to cracked nipples that I had to stop. He can't be latching on properly as the pain doesnt go away, it lasts throughout the whole feed. My DH had to go out at 1am to buy formula as the poor thing was starving. I feel like a complete failure. I'm going to speak to the midwife about it today.
Also, I noticed the teeniest/faintist amount of bloodish stain in his nappy, it's too low down to be coming from his cord, I think it's came from his willie. It's not causing him any pain but worrying me. I'll ask the midwife about that too but just wondered if anyone had a wee boy and had heard of this?

[PiccadillyCircus]

Can I pay a brief visit and hope I'll be in here soon .

[franch]

Ditto PC - and ditto to the mad hormones pooka. Carmen born a week ago today (10th)

[PiccadillyCircus]

Franch, you do at least have the one thing you need to be posting on this thread . I am lurking with a very large stretch marked, late bump.

Am hoping that this thread might persuade it to come out .

[franch]

Ah, PC - thought you were just checking in and coming back later like me - good luck - sorry I'm not quite up to date!

Totally identify with all the hormonal stuff - wish it didnt have to be like this - feel I'm not enjoying the first days of DD2's life enough, shuffling round like a miserable cow. Like you pooka, v worried about DD1 (coming up for 20m) - she's been great so far, giving DD2 kisses and bringing her toys, but has been taken out a lot and was very very tantrummy this morning when we stayed in. Makes me poo my pants at the idea of looking after the two of them on my own - I seriously am terrified that I'll go over the edge.

[MarsLady]

franch, just a quick hello, cos I saw your name. You can always call me if you feel too close to the edge.

[franch]

Thanks Mars Feel a bit pathetic when I think of how you cope - just can't see how the toddler/newborn combo is ever going to work!!

[jessicaandbumpsmummy]

Franch - dont say that PLEASE! Im due in less than 5 weeks with a 15 month age gap!!!!

[sarahhal]

Here you all are!! Have been lurking on the August post natal group until more Septemberers arrived.

Franch, Pooka - totally sympathise with you about your worries about dealing with a toddler as well. DS1 is what we might call "highly spirited" (!) and my main concern is how I am going to devote so much time to breast feeding DS2 without losing out quality time with DS1. It's not too bad at the moment as Dh has been able to take his paternity leave in two day a week slots, so with DS1 at nursery two days a week, there's only one day a week when I actually have both boys on my own ( and I go to my Mums then!!!) I am very nervous though about when paternity leave ends!

I think the main problem so far has been DS1s change in his sleeping pattern. He used to be put down in his cot for either a day time nap or bed time and just fall asleep - we now have major tantrums. I feel like I should have a mike and earpiece and have some TV child psychologist telling me what to do as he is so out of control! Plus the fact he gets up at 5.30 and will not go back to sleep is another issue!

Thomas is doing fine, gaining weight and partying all night! I can't remember these early days with DS1 and just hope that we can start to get some longer stretches of sleep soon! DS1 was such a good sleeper (grr now look!!) that everyone said we would have a more difficult second baby!

[pooka]

Hi all. Sorry to start a thread, then run, but I just haven't had TIME to post!
All well here - have been discharged by midwives. Tom putting on lots of weight and only woke once last night (Lucy woke LOADS) but we seem to have one good day, then one bad. He has terrible wind, although am trying infacol and fingers crossed it seems to be making a difference. Am considering cranial osteopathy...any words of wisdom??
And uch to my shame, since I swore that I wouldn't, have got dummies, and he loves them. DD still has a dummy for sleep and I thought that second time round it would be better not to even go there, but am torn as when windy he so obviously wants to suck, but is so obviously not hungry. Ho hum... feel like a terrible mother.
DH still at home so am aware that things are going to get harder in a week when he goes back to work. The idea of getting the three of us up and ready in the morning is terrifying.
RE: blood in nappy YCH, hope the idwife can reassure you. I took Tom to the doctor on Friday as his cord was red and inflamed, and (TMI) stank. But it seems to have cleared up since the main bit fell off and have been keeping him in nighties to let everything air nicely.
Anyway - another feed due now, so will catch up soon.

[ych]

Hi, found out that the stain in Joel's nappy was the crystals in the nappy and his urine reacting, or something. MW said its very common and nothing to worry about. He's nearly back up at his birthweight which is good. Breastfeeding still not going great but trying to persevere. Like you Pooka we also gave into dummies!

[LadyLazarus]

aha! this is where you've all been hiding! will check back tomorrow and catch up on posts... hope everyone is well and not stressing out too much! If one more person tells me to 'sleep when the baby sleeps' I'll swing for them

[Sallie]

Great - could really do with chatting right now. Had no 3 on 6 Sept and have been tearful ever since despite having a beautiful baby girl, a fast and uncomplicated labour and so on. Don't know if this is the start of PND. Am pretty sad that this is my last baby. We moved this summer and have been really hectic so didn't really notice the pregnancy. Wasn't pampered at all by anyone following the birth and have had noone to talk about it with really.

[pooka]

Oh Sallie, poor you.
When I had dd 2 years ago I was still very tearful about 3 - 4 weeks after dd was born, and continued to be susceptible to teary outbreaks for ages. But was NOT PND - think was a hormonal thing (and that was first time and all).
Maybe it's a thing with girls? Maybe it's just a combination of all sorts of pressures - new home, new area, last baby (akes me feel upset thinking about it, and plan to have No.3 at some point in the future), 2 older kids to look after and just a sense of deflation rather than depression.
Would it be worth mentioning it to your GP/health visitor?
How much support are you getting from DH and family/friends? I think there would certainly be a sense that once you've already got 2, you can cope and don't need nurturing as much, when in fact, you've still recently given birth and have a lot on your plate.

[bubbles2904]

wow, can't believe we're all on the post natal thread. never thought we'd see the day.
sallie, i really feel for you, it should help talking to us about it, can you tell your dh/p about how you're feeling?
Well, don't want to sound smug but Mia is been great, we've had 2 bad nights and she's 2 weeks 2 days old now, she even slept for 8 hours without waking but makes up her feeds when awake. i'm not bf though so don't know if this has anything to do with it. dd1 has been fantastic, but she's 6 and half so she's like a little mummy to her. i was so worried the gap was too big bbut she's great.

[franch]

Hi all, have had a couple of good days feeling much more on top of things and enjoying my 2 girls. DD1 had a terrible night last night tho - normally perfect sleeper - so am a bit concerned that things are getting to her more than she's letting on. Is anyone on their own with a baby + toddler yet, or are everyone's partners still off work? Mine goes back to work tomorrow but mum will be here, hopefully early!!! May be on my own on Sat tho. Am looking for survival tips ....

[bubbles2904]

franch, my dp works from home so i have him here most of the time,, unless he needs to go to a auction. it's great him being here but as he's working i'm pretty much alone to look after her.

[pooka]

DH goes back to work on Monday. Worse, though, he's away from Saturday am until Sunday pm, including overnight stay, at a stag do. We were umming and ahhhing about whether he should go, but my mum has offered to help with bathtime on Saturday and then to take dd out on Sunday, so hopefully we'll survive. Well we'll have to (she types while making a mental note of the amount that dh OWES me!).
8 hours bubbles That's fabulous. Tom sleeps for about 4 hours max, but even that seems like loads compared to dd who was never a great sleeper at this age.

[bubbles2904]

pooka, i would've settled for 4 hours myself. a woman at the school gates asked me how she sleeps, i told her and she said she can't believe that she still wakes up during the night, and should be sleeping through. LOL the amazing thing is she has 2 children of her own so should know all about babys sleeping patterns and not be so judgemental.

[pooka]

Sleeping through! At this age???? I don't think so
dd didn't sleep through til 10 months old, though.....
So I'll settle for my 4 hours (occasional 5 hours during the day).

[zoezebra]

Ah ha, all lurking here are we. Glad that a new thread for post natals has been started. Was feeling a bit like a gate crasher on the ante natal Sept thread
Is anyone else formula only feeding?? If so can you tell me what the poo looks like. Can't remember DD1's. Am slightly concerned as Jaspers is very seedy looking and a mustard colour. Apparently this is what breastfed babies poos are supposed to look like, not formula. Its also very watery. Anyone else experiencing this??? Not worried about colour so much, more consistency and the seed thing!
YCH - A slight blood stained nappy is normal during the first few weeks. Not experienced it with Jasper but apparently its
Franch - Have survived for 2 weeks without DH now and its not been too bad. Survival tips, Mmmmm, I went and bought a few new books / toys for DD1 and made sure that I was paying her attention each time Jasper slept. T.V sadly has been a great help, along with the stash of DVD's. The hardest part is when they both want food at the same time! Luckily DH gets home at 6pm and can help with bathtime.
Dummy brigade - I also gave in AGAIN and have resorted to dummies, so don't feel bad....we can all be bad mothers together!!
Sallie - Feeling teary at the moment too, think its hormonal and stress related. We have sold our flat and are having to be out and in rental accomodation by mid oct Moving home with a newborn is not the greatest idea. Throughout my whole pregnancy we were trying to sell the flat and it never happened. Then the day I was in labour (even though it was not on the market) we got an offer - great timing. Feeling myself getting all stressed again, not what i had planned for the first few weeks of Jaspers life.
Bubbles - Sleeping through??? So not going to happen yet, even if you have an angel baby. DD1 did not sleep through til 2 years
Jasper seems to get one good night and then a couple of bad. Generally hes waking about 2 times a night, so not too bad. Sleep deprivation is starting to kick in now though so will probably change my tune when next posting.
Glad we all seem to be surviving and glad that I am on the post natal thread now, not at all envious of those still waiting to have their babes. Thoughts going out to all and lets hope we will be welcoming them here very soon x

[Sallie]

thanks for all your kind messages. Pooka - you are bang on with the not being nurtured the third time around. In fact, I think dh just assumes I get on with things as normal. Would love to have more time to spend with the kids but seem to spend my days catching up on housework and tidying up after they have made lots of mess. Am feeling very teary all the time so am going to speak to my very supportive health visitor tomorrow. On top of all that, dh's mother, sister and her brood and father all want seperate visits this weekend at a time when I am really feeling at my lowest ebb....people can be soooo insensitive sometimes. Actually called my mum this evening and asked her to help some more which she is going to do. She said she wanted to keep some distance whilst dh was on leave. Sadly he has spent most of the two weeks either decorating or revising for his exams so I have been single parent to 3 under 3 and a week! Sorry to moan....

[bubbles2904]

sallie, you are not moaning, it's good to say how you're feeling. i think we're all feeling a little weepy at the moment. i'm biting dp and dd1 head off all the time at the moment, and told dp that he can start looking after mia and i'll do f^£& all like he does. oops, went down like a lead balloon. just feel like i'm doing it all alone, but he did bath her last night and fed her before bed so i guess my outburst helped.
zoezebra, my dd1 was 3 when she slept through so i'm really happy with mia's sleeping, but it's like they say "angels in the cradle, buggers at the table." this saying was so true with my nephew and nieces, and my dd was a buggar in the cradle and now is a angel, or as close as you can expect from a 6yr old girl LOL
am also looking forward to welcoming everyone else here, also feel like a gatecrasher when i post on the ante natal thread now.
cabe will be joining us soon, she posted last night to say her baby was here.

[bubbles2904]

ps zoezebra, i am formula feeding only and mia's poo is how you've described, and is a yellowy colour. this is normal as it shows the liver is working properly. hth