Help needed - petition to support nil cap on lap dancing in Bristol

(61 Posts)
JessInAvalon Thu 19-Sep-13 22:11:03

Hi all
I've not been on here for a while but now we really need your help in Bristol!

Someone has set up a petition calling for a nil cap on lap dancing clubs as has been done in Swansea.

We have a good number of signatures but we really need more.

It takes less than a minute to sign and you don't need to live in Bristol to object to them.

If you live in Bristol, it would be great if you could share this with your networks on Facebook/Twitter etc.

epetitions.bristol.gov.uk/epetition_core/community/petition/2372

Thanks all
JessInAvalon

libertarianj Fri 20-Sep-13 00:01:55

Why? How is it a feminist issue trying to make other women redundant? That's not feminism sad

Check out this article regarding a total bullshit decision in Chester, where a club of 9 years has just lost it's license, for some pathetically lame reason:
www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/lap-dancing-tour-after-platinum-6060554

Please take some time to read the comments on there, there's a great comments (best rated) from a dancer who challenges and rips apart Ms Lomas's (club objector in the article) feminist credentials.

scallopsrgreat Fri 20-Sep-13 00:19:54

Jess I signed this a couple of weeks ago and posted on Twitter. Will retweet now for you.

ModeratelyObvious Fri 20-Sep-13 00:38:38

I didn't think lapdancers had employment contracts, lib.

contactmoney Fri 20-Sep-13 00:49:02

I don't understand how "fight for equality" means making women lose their jobs just because they choose to work in an industry feminists don't like.

MabelFigworthy Fri 20-Sep-13 01:01:51

Oh, what an odd coincidence... DH was just telling me that he had to listen to some colleagues bemoaning the fact that George Ferguson wants to shut down the lap dancing clubs. Apparently there have been some incidents involving 'touching'. hmm

MabelFigworthy Fri 20-Sep-13 01:03:21

confused That's the second time tonight that it's double posted me... That's never happened before! Weird!

contactmoney Fri 20-Sep-13 01:04:20

If someone "touched" a barmaid at a pub would that be justification to ban all pubs?

FloraFox Fri 20-Sep-13 01:40:16

Oh look, here's lib to tell us what feminism is. Thank fuck for that. Rest easy ladies.

I wonder if the clubs are closed down, will the clubs begin their redundancy consultations?

contactmoney Fri 20-Sep-13 01:44:45

I wonder if the feminists who got the clubs closed down will provide money or alternative employment for the women who lost their jobs?

FloraFox Fri 20-Sep-13 01:50:09

I wonder if the anti-smoking campaigners provided money or alternative employment for the people in cigarette factories who lost their jobs?

WhentheRed Fri 20-Sep-13 03:05:35

I wonder if the trade unionists who get sweatshops closed down provide money or alternative employment for the men, women and children who lose their jobs?

The dancers are likely independent contractors. In that case, they don't have jobs to lose and are free to work elsewhere at any time.

DropYourSword Fri 20-Sep-13 03:49:43

Erm, cigarette factories still exist!

contactmoney Fri 20-Sep-13 04:33:42

Cigarette factories still exist, and aren't at any risk of being banned and closed in the near future.

FloraFox Fri 20-Sep-13 05:02:02

^
| | |

Queue here if you are incapable of understanding analogy.

DropYourSword Fri 20-Sep-13 06:18:34

In the most basic of terms an analogy is making a comparison to show a similarity. And therefore we are absolutely correct when we state that actually they aren't similar outcomes at all.

Is there a queue for people making spurious arguments?

FloraFox Fri 20-Sep-13 06:40:40

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-355705/530-jobs-smoke-cigarette-factory.html

"BAT said sales in Ireland had been hit by tax increases on cigarettes as well as the ban on smoking in public places."

DropYourSword Fri 20-Sep-13 06:48:12

You're really quoting Daily Mail?
hmm

FloraFox Fri 20-Sep-13 06:51:58

You think they made it up?

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/40-cigarette-factory-jobs-go-to-poland-29286141.html

Mr Paisley said 1,000 jobs were still secure at the site, but claimed "wreckless Government policies such as plain packaging" would not help employment prospects.

FloraFox Fri 20-Sep-13 06:56:13

www.thefreelibrary.com/Imperial+Tobacco+planning+big+job+cuts+across+Europe%3B+FACTORY...-a0180336492

newsinfo.inquirer.net/310313/tobacco-farmers-factory-workers-vendors-rally-against-sin-tax-bill

“This sin tax will increase the price of tobacco products, thus creating a domino effect on all those involved in the trade,” Battaler said. He also noted that some cigarette-factory workers might lose their jobs, tobacco farmers might earn less than what they are presently earning and street vendors will lose a chance to earn.

MrsClown Fri 20-Sep-13 12:14:39

Signed.

SpottedDickandCustard Fri 20-Sep-13 12:21:45

From the article about the closure of the club in Chester:

the loss of the licence will cost more than 40 jobs. The club had operated for eight years with no problems, no objections from police or other authorities plus no objections from its immediate neighbours

How can that be a good decision?

sicilianbuttercup Fri 20-Sep-13 12:27:12

Signed.

libertarianj Fri 20-Sep-13 12:35:39

Oh look, here's lib to tell us what feminism is. Thank fuck for that. Rest easy ladies.

Well maybe you should start acting like feminists then wink

I wonder if the anti-smoking campaigners provided money or alternative employment for the people in cigarette factories who lost their jobs?

oh and the do-gooding health police can do one too!grin

libertarianj Fri 20-Sep-13 12:45:39

The club in Chester should take it to a judicial review. I notice there is Slug and Lettuce bar located directly below it and night clubs further down the street. How can it be ok to have bars/ clubs in the same vicinity but single out the lap dancing club. Surely that is a moral decision which they are not allowed to make.

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