Adults collecting children/shoe wearing

(36 Posts)
Kennington Sat 27-Apr-13 09:09:10

hi, i visited a nursery yesterday and noticed that they didn't ask us to take off our shoes when entering the baby room. none of the babies were in at the time though. it got me wondering if parents are allowed to collect their children wearing their outdoor shoes. i will ask next week but is this the case at your nursery?

i personally find it very unhygienic and was surprised as surely this would increase the chances of gastrointestinal infections. i don't agree with the schtick it improves immunity because very little children could suffer terribly if they contracted something from dog poo.....

Patchouli Thu 02-May-13 14:40:03

ooo this is a bit of a twist on the usual shoes on / off threads.

I've just realised now why some of the mums have their shoes off at a children's centre music group I go to (I'd thought: 'make yourselves at home why don't you')

I visited a nursery when I was looking for a new one for DD2 at which I was told shoes were covered. This struck me as ridiculous because despite that, the floors of the pre-school in particular were filthy. Really, really grubby. No shoe covers in the world could have helped in this instance!

Seb101 Wed 01-May-13 19:44:59

Removing shoes seems very OTT to me! Where ever you go; friends houses, toddlers, classes etc, people will have walked on the floor with shoes! Babies aren't nearly as delicate as that. They put all sorts in their mouths. If dog mess was walked into nursery, it would be noticed and cleaned up. Odd bits of daily dirt ( and all nursery's floors are cleaned daily) doesn't do any harm. The phrase 'wrapping in cotton wool' comes to mind. I'd chill out and not worry. Xxgrin

IwishIwasmoreorganised Wed 01-May-13 08:34:52

General cleanliness of a nursery says far more about it than shoe covers.

Looking dusty and rather grubby would be far more important to me than their shoe on/off policy.

Have you got any others to look around?

Kennington Wed 01-May-13 08:08:08

Again thanks for all the interesting comments. Why i asked was because all the mother and baby group that I have attended asked for shoes to be removed. I am not actually too fussy in general about this - i dont get people to remove shoes in my house, but for the baby room I really didn't like it. The floor looked dusty and rather grubby. It is just a case of numbers of people passing through. Lots of people are more likely to result in something grotty being dragged through.

insancerre Wed 01-May-13 07:39:25

I wonder how many of these babies that have to be protected by little shoe covers have dogs at home.
Or are they banned as well?

ReetPetit Tue 30-Apr-13 22:13:59

Karoleann - sorry, where am i talking utter crap 'as usual' ??

I simply asked if the op goes to mother and toddler groups confused i have never been to one where adults have been asked to remove their shoes.

I am well aware of the damage toxoplasmosis can do, thank you! wink

IwishIwasmoreorganised Tue 30-Apr-13 22:06:23

Agree with Reet - do none of you go to soft play places or mothers and toddler groups in church halls where there is no compulsion to remove your shoes? I doubt that those floors have been thoroughly cleaned with disinfectant prior to your arrival - and if they had, those chemicals won't do your lo's much good either.

Life cannot be completely risk free. It's all about assessing the risks and making decisions based upon that assessment. The tricky part is that people's assessments of those risks differ.

IwishIwasmoreorganised Tue 30-Apr-13 22:02:56

Not at all Gilberte. If I had actual poo on my shoes or pram wheels then they would be left outside of my house or nursery until they had been adequately cleaned. I obviously would not knowingly tread it into home, nursery, friends houses..........confused

Karoleann Tue 30-Apr-13 21:59:34

Yuk, no you don't want adults wearing shoes in a baby room. All the nurseries my three children have been in have asked me to put covers on my shoes (and provided them) before I've gone in their room. Children take their shoes off too.

Reet - you are talking utter crap as usual. Do you realise the damage toxoplasmosis and toxocara to do to eyes - if the infection affects the macula it will cause irreversible blindness.

Gilberte Tue 30-Apr-13 21:53:59

"For those of you who are worried about dog poo - wiping your shoes or pram wheels with a baby wipe or in a puddle will not kill bacteria"

I realise that but would you rather I notice I'd gone through something and drag it through the nursery?There is bacteria everywhere and we need to be exposed to germs for our immune systems. Having said that if you know you've stepped in something it's couteous to clean it off rather than make work for someone else surely?

At home, I will use an anti bac spray on my wheels or children's shoes if I've cleaned them.

quoteunquote Tue 30-Apr-13 21:47:45

In all of the nurseries here (state and private), children have inside shoes(slippers) and outside shoes and wellies, No one would wear shoes past the entrance way, because children sit , crawl and play on the floor.

It would only take someone to walk poo through once and trying to clean properly with lots of children would be impossible.

I thought all nurseries did this, really surprised there are ones still left that don't, I assumed it must be required,

Down here you hand grown out of wellies and slippers on to nursery or the primary school so they always have spares.

ReetPetit Tue 30-Apr-13 21:44:23

op - would you not go to any mother and toddler groups where adults wear shoes either then? confused

IwishIwasmoreorganised Tue 30-Apr-13 21:35:35

I've never come across this!

At my ds's nursery parents generally didn't get further than the lino'd area where the dc sat at tables for meals, craft etc in the baby room. The carpeted area where the babies were actually on the floor was partitioned off.

For those of you who are worried about dog poo - wiping your shoes or pram wheels with a baby wipe or in a puddle will not kill bacteria.

Emsmaman Tue 30-Apr-13 21:30:46

Adults shoes get taken off at reception (or the plastic shoe covers!).

usualsuspect Tue 30-Apr-13 15:43:37

I've never heard of this in my life. How precious.

TinyTear Tue 30-Apr-13 15:37:20

No outdoor shoes at my nursery either

littlemisstax Tue 30-Apr-13 12:46:42

DDs nursery is completely shoe free - for adults and children. They carry thier shoes from the hallway where we drop them off to the shoe racks by the back door for going in the garden.

It works well.

Mondaybaby Tue 30-Apr-13 01:04:53

Baby room has shoes off policy but poorly adhered to by most. When dd was about 10months old they did have an outbreak of gastroenteritis that my dd caught although I have no idea of the source. I would have preferred a strict outdoor shoe off policy throughout the nursery. There are some risks that are just not worth it.

ReetPetit Mon 29-Apr-13 22:17:31

and most people who have stepped in dog poo would normally notice before stepping into a baby room, wouldn't they? hmm

Gilberte Mon 29-Apr-13 22:17:30

"Is dog poo your major concern with this, as I can't think of a time since I was a child that I have been unfortunate enough to step in dog poo. It surely isn't that common an occurrence?"

Depends where you live. The pavements where I live are full of dog poo. Even with my excellent poodar I have still stepped in it a couple of times, or the buggy wheels have gone through it and I've had to get the wet wipes out/find a large puddle before going into nursey.

We take shoes off at home but I don't insist others do it. A relative once manage to bring dog shit in with him.

I hate the fact that I have to walk with my eyes constantly focussed on the pavement beneath me and try to steer two children round it on the way to school/nursery.

I am particularly careful so I hate to think what's on the carpet my DD has to sit down on in school.

LadyKinbote Mon 29-Apr-13 22:16:50

DC have been at three nurseries - all had a no shoes policy for the baby room.

DDs pre-school/nursery is shoes off inside. Staff have indoor shoes. Children take their shoes off when they go in and parents either de-shoe or put on plastic shoe covers if they go in past the hallway.

Taking shoes off here is just part of what you do when you go indoors.

Mannequinkate Mon 29-Apr-13 22:09:25

Do all guests in your home remove their shoes? Does you baby never get to crawl on the lawn?

Is dog poo your major concern with this, as I can't think of a time since I was a child that I have been unfortunate enough to step in dog poo. It surely isn't that common an occurrence?

ReetPetit Mon 29-Apr-13 21:54:25

i have also worked in many nurseries and have collected lots of mindees from nursery and have never been asked to remove my shoes. I think that is a little ott. Surely tiny babies are kept in a seperate carperted area where staff would probably remove shoes? i have never known staff remove shoes at all but if they did i would assume it would only be in one part of the room where non mobile babies would be.

Once babies are crawling you can't really cocoon them in the same way -if you put them in a nursery, you no longer have any control over things in the same way - you can't see how they are preparing food/sterilising bottles/changing nappies, so to some extent you have to accept that i would think.
when they are crawling, they will pick things up and put them in their mouths, and they will also be exposed to bugs. Crawling babies are put down in parks, are they not? and in gardens?

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