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3 mc in a row

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lizzie9442 · 03/03/2009 18:31

Hi i have just found out today that my baby has died as there was no heart beat at the scan. There was a heart beat two weeks ago. I would of been about 8 and a hlf weeks today. I mc in July with twins and also in December last year. i have 3 healthy children and had another mc a few years ago. So all together I have lost 4 pregnancies.

I wondered if this has happened to any one else as the mc I have had in a row the hearts have all stopped around 8 weeks. I am really worried and heart broken as I really wanted my fourth baby which is what i have always dreamed of. I will have testing now but does any one have an idea as to what could be causing this to happen? Any halp or information would be much appreciated. thankyou for listening to me x

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ladyhelen2 · 03/03/2009 18:36

I had 3 mc following a healthg pg. Mc at 6, 8 and 11 weeks. No reason for them found. Just had blood tests to check for chromosonal reasons. Am now 31 weeks pg. Guess I was just unlucky. All along I was told there was probably no problem as I had carried to term successfully and as you have had 3 babies, I'll bet you'll be told the same. Its hard but sometimes there is no reason that can be found. I just put it down to age. I'm 38.

Hope you feel better soon.

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samoy · 03/03/2009 19:19

hi lizzie, i too have had 3 miscarriages in a row following a healthy pregnancy.My losses were later at 11-14 weeks.I have had some tests done for chromosone and antiphospholipid but all were normal. I was told by my consultant just yesterday to go on and have another pregnancy and chances are it will be fine next time. Its so hard to deal with when there are no answers but that all too often is the case,it certainatly makes you appreciate what you have got. Good luck to you and i am sorry x

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andiem · 03/03/2009 19:22

so sorry to see this lizzie your best bet is to get referred to a recurrent mc clinic there is a fab one in london at St Marys and also a good one at Liverpool women's hospital.
You need to have some blood tests done to rule out things like antiphospholipid syndrome and chromosonal abnormalities.
If you go to a recurrent mc clinic they will do all the tests and support you through any subsequent pregnancies
hope you can find some answersx

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pecanpie · 03/03/2009 20:28

I have had 2 mc in a row after having one healthy pregnancy/child, both at 8.5 ish weeks. I had blood tests done to check for chromosomal abnormalities - there was an issue with the first mc and am waiting for results of the second. As with samoy, the consultant has said to get on with things again and hopefully things will work out next time, but as in your case, I'm worried as both happened at pretty much the same time.

I hope your tests go well and that you go on to have your 4th very soon!

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kissmummy · 03/03/2009 21:50

i hope you find comfort in your three lovely little ones. like you i've had three miscarriages in a row - it's devastating - but i feel so lucky to have a baby already. (one DS, 18 months.)
i'm having blood tests tomorrow but my hunch is they will find nothing and we'll be none the wiser as to why this is happening to us...

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lizzie9442 · 04/03/2009 06:53

thankyou very much for all your kind words. I am v=finding it hard as i woke up this morning and it hit me all over again. I still haven't decided if i want the erpc or to wait and mc naturally. I have previously had both but hate the thought of being put to sleep again but at least they could test the baby to see if there is anything wrong if I had the erpc. I still have no bleeding so i don't know how long I would have to wait to mc naturally, although they did say if its not within 2 weeks I would need to have the erpc anyway. xxxx

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fungusmungus · 04/03/2009 08:40

So sorry you are going through this again. The same happened to me: 1st MC, then lovely DD now 3, then 3 MC in a row. I've just had my 4th and am still feeling devastated, confused & miserable. For the last 2, we saw baby's heartbeat at 7 weeks, then nothing at the 9 week scans. I cant believe this keeps happening.

I was referred to the RMC at the JR in Oxford who did the usual tests and all came back fine, and after this last one I'm being referred again, although I dont know what else they can suggest. My age is probably the biggest factor - I will be 40 soon & DH is 45.

I decided this time to miscarry naturally as I couldnt face going into hospital & a general - it took me a long time to recover from the last one. It wasnt too bad as I was at least at home but still very painful. However, my body was doing its thing, which I preferred rather than to ask it to cope with more trauma & drugs!!
I'm following up with acupuncture & medicinal herbs to settle things down & help recovery.

I hope youre doing ok - give yourself lots of time xxxx

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lizzie9442 · 05/03/2009 15:44

I have decided to go ahead with the erpc as I have still not started bleeding so it could be ages until i mc naturally. I am still having all the symptons of pregnancy to feeling extremly sick so i just need to move on so think i am doing the best thing. It is booked in for tomorrow morning and i can't wait for it to be over with.

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cathers · 05/03/2009 16:44

I am so sorry you are going through this heart -break. I had 3 m/c at 8, 8, and 9 weeks over the last two years following the birth of my DS. So frustrating and worrying as I had obviously conceived before.
Finally got referred to a fertility clinic after third m/c and having had first investigative bloods taken, found out I was pregnant again.

Baby now due in 8 weeks and it was suggested that the m/c were prob chromosonally abnormal or due to hyper-sensitive pg tests picking up a non viable preg which would have not been detected years ago. Whilst waiting for my referral to the fertility clinic I did start seeing a homeopath who gave me a remedy and some counselling which I really believed helped me feel I was doing something positive. Good luck for tomorrow
and for a speedy recovery.

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lizzie9442 · 05/03/2009 20:17

thankyou so much cathers, your story has really helped me think into the future. Good luck and congratulations. Hope you enjoy the baby you will have very soon xxxx

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hobnob57 · 07/03/2009 15:27

Lizzie, so sorry to see that you're having to go through this again. Stay strong, and be kind to yourself. I know the emotional agony I went through after my Dec mmc. Take comfort that investigations are being done - if there is something wrong it should be picked up, if you've just had bad luck then your odds are good for next time.

I've just found out I'm pg again, so all fingers and toes are crossed.

I hope the erpc was ok.

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FitRunner · 23/04/2009 03:22

I had 3 mc in a row at 39. No children yet. But fell pregnant at each insemination but lost them.

Best to have a d and c to prevent uterine infection and the sooner the better for you emotionally.

Then you can try again knowing the uterus is all clean and test the fetus and probably find out the cause. I knew why I lost mine - chromosomal and one didn't implant - as my OBGYNAE said just sheer bad luck. But there is no other reason I can't carry a baby to term.

I had all the testing done including my uterus etc..(except my tubes which I know they are both open) and everything was fine. In fact they said my uterus was "pristine!"

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Daynee · 23/04/2009 13:34

Hi ladies - So sorry to hear your stories but so glad to hear the successes - and I would love to hear more! I had 3 mc's in a row, no children, and I'm 31...so age can't be the issue. I did all the tests - I have MTHFR which isn't major because it is only one strand and just have to take prescription strength folic acid. ALso I have hypothyroid but am taking meds for that. My last cycle, the doc tracked ovulation and found that my lining was a bit thin but also said many women with thin linings have babies. So, basically, I'm drowning the the whirlpool or mysterious miscarriage...
I just got a BFP this morning and although I'm excited, I'm a nervous wreck. I'm taking progesterone and baby aspirin but who knows?
Much love and baby dust to all

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brokensole · 05/05/2009 19:46

hi all, so sorry about all your losses, i know how you all feel. i to have just had my 3 mc in a row all of them before 8 weeks. the doc tested #2 and said nothing was wrong, just some inflammation and he did not seem concerned and said it's common for 2 mc's. now i am worried i am only 29 and healthy and current miscarrying #3. my hubby is so wonderful and we want to have kids so bad but i just don't think i can go through this again it's too painful. no one tells you when you grow up and get married that you will have multiple miscarriages. is it me or does nobody talk about it? it seems the more people that find out i have had 3 mc know someone who has also had 3 or more mc
it just feels hopeless righ now.

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Directskiandsun · 05/05/2009 21:33

Brokensole - very sorry to read your sadness. Have you been referred to a specialist mc clinic? If not, ask you GP to organise it - stress the strain this is putting on you and that you would like some tests / investigations. We lost our first DS at 20 weeks, so had an induced labour. We knew we couldn't go through that again, and asked my (female - it shouldn't make a difference but IME it did) GP to refer me. We had our next DS just over a year later after close monitoring. We did have another MC exactly 3 years (to the day...) later, but then another DS, again with very close monitoring. I have a friend who is a midwife and her husband a surgeon - they had 3 MC one after the other, and then found that her body had a bad reaction to her husband's antibodies - she had a blood transfusion to give her immunity (don't know all the technical bits, sorry!) but they now have 3 DS. It CAN seem hopeless and I don't think anyone who hasn't been through it, can fully grasp the despair, but do ask for a referral. There are now specialist MC clinics around the country - we were luck to be near one of the best in Liverpool. Good luck - chin up, it may not be hopeless x

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brokensole · 05/05/2009 22:12

Directskiandsun,i too am so sorry for your losses i can not imagine your pain losing at 20 weeks with induced labour my heart breaks for you. thanks so much for your kind words. I will be seeing a new doc in a few weeks so i will insist that they run some tests, but i live in a small town and we don't have anyting like a mc clinic near by, but i will research and see where the closest one is to me. i stil don't know if i can bare the thougth of being pregnant again it is too stressful and each time i mc a little piece of me dies...
Take care and all the best to you!

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Directskiandsun · 06/05/2009 08:19

Thanks brokensole - good luck with your new doctor. The gp who had referred me initially, had suffered a mc herself, so did have some insight. The male gp I had seen initially, obviously hadn't, and frankly didn't have a clue as to the emotional strain. Hopefully you will get someone who understands and empathises, and more importantly, gets some action for you. When we were in need of a clinic, there were only two in the country, and we were very lucky to be near one - there are more specialist units now, and if you are prepared to travel you should be able to access one. Take care and good luck

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Daynee · 08/05/2009 19:44

Hi brokensole - I'm so sorry to hear of your losses. I feel like we have similar situations. I am 31 and have had 3 mc's in a row and no children. I've taken every test the specialists have thrown at me and virtually nothing is wrong, aside from MTHFR which is the single strand and no biggie. I'll be on progesterone and baby aspirin now and just recently had IUI to speed up the process. You should make sure you get all the tests - antibodies tests, prolactin, FSH, estradiol, progesterone, and get an HSG (xray of uterus)...

Directskia - I must tell you that what your friend did is leukocyte immunization therapy which they don't do here in the U.S. because the FDA found no significant evidence that it has anything to do with pregnancy loss. I also asked my doc who is a reproductive endocrinologist and he just shook his head and told me to stop reading all the stuff on the internet - LOL! I'm not saying it's impossible but it seems so unlikely that would be the cause of mc - but who knows for sure anyway?

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brokensole · 08/05/2009 20:58

Daynee- I am so sorry for all that you have been through as well. It just does not seem fair that the both of us are experiencing this torment and heartache. Thank you for all the advice I feel that I will be more prepared to ask the right questions when I see the Doc next week.

Here is a story that I just found out about and thought I would share with anyone that needs a bit of hope. My bf has also had 4 miscarriages she just found out she was pregnant again for the 5th time, she started bleeding after only 1 week and was positive she lost the pregnancy because of past expericnecs. She went for an ultra sound yesterday and there is a strong heart beat!! She is however not out of the woods yet, they determined that her sac is misshaped so she is currently on bed rest. I am hoping and praying for her. ( I would have been due one day after her)

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SmilingEi · 08/05/2009 23:29

hi,
i have also had 4 MC 3 in the last 12 months with my last being last week i had all the tests done at LWH and i have a rare form of APS called lupus erythematosis which they have determined as my 'cause'. i have to take high dose folic acid and also baby asprin when i finally get another BFP (i have been TTC#2 for 20 cycles now and 3MC) i had my first MC and DD before i knew about my APS and they have said we were very lucky to have a normal pregnancy with DD as my levels were quite high when they were tested after MC#3 and they have given me a success rate of 23% for healthy pregnancy without treatment and 73% with treatment so either way they are expecting between i/4 and 3/4 of my pregnancies to end badly so not too good of an outlook!!
the way i look at it though is i have been given a reason for my losses and therefore there may be something that can be done about this for me
it is so hard not to fall into the grief of the losses and to lose hope but it is the staying positive and the holding onto hope that will fially get you through what is undoubtedly one of the most emotionally tramatic times of your life xx
xx ei xx

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ray81 · 09/05/2009 08:44

Hi,

Ei i met you on the emmsys thread.

I had a scan on thurs which was meant to be 10 weeks and found out that baby died at 8+4 am devastated as this is my 4th mc in 5 yrs and i realy thought this time it would be ok.
Have to have an erpc on tues as my body isnt doing its job at all and i want to get over this as soon as ican. not sure i want to do this all again though its so draining i admire your positivity ei. we have had all the tests and nothing has shown up as being qrong so feel like iam banging my head against a brick wall.i just dont know where to go from here.

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SmilingEi · 09/05/2009 11:51

ahhh ray im so sorry this is happening to you again there really isnt anything that i could say to make this better but i hope you are feeling (physically) ok and you have got some RL support to help you through it is so hard to stay positive especially with such constant dissppointment im here if you need to talk xx are you on facebook?? if you are add me if you need to chat (my name is ei stackhouse)
xx ei xx

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Joolsiam · 09/05/2009 15:07

Really really sorry to hear your news Ray

It is wierdly comforting to hear of so many people who have had multiple mc's as there are so many stories of hope and eventual success.

I MC'ed last July at 4+4, November at 11+5 on the morning of my dating scan and a couple of weeks ago at 5+5 - thought I was coping OK with the latest early-ish one, but it is hitting me now - I keep lurking on my old a/n thread (edd from 2nd MC was May 29th) - am so happy for everyone but I am torturing myself because it just pushes the knife in a bit further and reminds me what I have lost

I'll be 40 in November, so am guessing I just need to crack a few eggs to find one still in date, but have got a recurrent mc clinic appt anyway - couldn't get in to anywhere with a big reputation very quickly, so am going to the Queen Elizabeth II hospital in Welwyn Garden City because I can get in as soon as June 3rd.

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