Ivf only for hiv positive men and cancer suffers

[naty1]

When i saw this on the wright stuff i presumed it was the other way round, excluding these groups. Which i didnt think was right but then realised they were actually excluding everyone else.
Im convinced they could come up with better criteria maybe setting future tighter restrictions on bmi (so its under 25 say if thats what is more successful) and age.
But also more proactive on say identifying people with pcos when they are younger so they would know and could choose to start trying younger.
It sounds like they considered who could claim they were being discriminated against and let those groups continue being treated.

[ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy]

Do you have a link to an article or similar, Matt?

[ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy]

Sorry, I meant Nat.

[AnguaResurgam]

It's Mid Essex Clinical Commissioning Group who are talking about this. They think they need to change the eligibility criteria in their area as they say they cannot afford the current number of procedures, and this is one of the ways under discussion.

[ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy]

Thanks. That seems an odd way. Is the logic that cancer patients may be rendered infertile by treatment and that HIV positive people need intervention if they are to avoid transmitting the disease to their children?

[naty1]

I think they can already avoid, mostly passing to kids with drugs, but i presume would put the woman at risk.
Although i would think that if the hiv patients have no fertility issues (ie no low count) this being the only issue would make them more likely to succeed on say a first try or only need ivf rather than icsi so cheaper, even if self funding.
I also think the focus on cutting down ivf is cruel in a way when you balance it out on the cost of maternity care ie if your fertile for free you can have infinite no of kids resulting in surely some expensive CS vs say 1 round of ivf for a childless couple to probably have 1 child as these couples arent entitled to another attempt once they have 1 child so only 1 birth to pay for.

[ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy]

One round (vs 3) was another of their options wasn't it? That seems more "usual".