Another Ed Miliband gaffe

[TerrierandJune96]

Unbelievable!
eveningharold.com/2014/07/21/another-gaffe-as-miliband-calls-for-russia-to-be-kicked-out-of-commonwealth-games/#more-200796

[AuntieStella]

I prefer the sidebar story on that link: Rampaging Prince George Destroys Hitchin

[PedlarsSpanner]

Yes, quite unbelievable

(You DO know the EH is a spoof?!)

[PedlarsSpanner]

Yes the PG rampage gave me the giggles

[Isitmebut]

The Amazing Mr Ed, poor love, he has spent the last 4-years criticising every coalition policy and trying to score cheap political points at every turn, and clearly doesn’t know when to stop. Bless.

He saw (what he thought) was a chance to attack Cameron and grabbed it with two-left feet in mouth.

The man is an embarrassment and hopefully he knows that there was an American War of Independence, as god knows what he’ll say to Obama today in Washington e.g. asking Obama his view on how many medals the U.S. will obtain in Edinburgh.

[SnowinBerlin]

He saw (what he thought) was a chance to attack Cameron and grabbed it with two-left feet in mouth.

Ummm, it's a spoof site. Either that or it's really true that evil George Osbourne has introduced a tax on prams in coffee shops to give the government a boost in polls.

[rootypig]

What on earth is going on here?

OP and Isitme the Evening Harold is MADE UP!

[zoemaguire]

There are some unbelievably gullible stupid people out there...

[Isitmebut]

Ha ha ha ….. I thought it must have been a local paper, so if it is a spoof site, guilty as charged, ‘gullible’ that is; ‘stupid’ is to believe that the man with an Oxbridge P.P.E. degree, who for years criticised the coalition for their economic plan and spending restraint , having now publicly admitted he was wrong, is intellectually able to help run this country AGAIN. IMHO.

[plinkyplonks]

Tee hee :) Thanks for the giggle! :D

[edamsavestheday]

love the fact people fell for this - hoist with their own petard, calling people stupid...

It's worth clicking on the link before commenting, people!

[Isitmebut]

Did anyone who fell for this call anyone else for not believing it stupid?

FYI I DID click onto the link, how else would I have known 'oppose everything' Miliband was attacking Cameron, that's all he done for 4-years, it was hardly out of character.

Not every story appears in the main papers, 'Harold', 'Herald', if it makes sense, I don't get CSI to look at it, I read it and move on.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/gordon-brown-im-an-ex-politician.1383153916

[Floisme]

I would let it go, Isitmebut. The more you post, the more people will see it

[edamsavestheday]

Harold is usually the name of a nice elderly gentleman, or a deceased king. Not of a real newspaper.

[rootypig]

Isit you are not a good advertisement for your political sympathies

[dawndonnaagain]

Oh good grief, just shows what the average Tory voter is like these days!

[Isitmebut]

And Labour ‘gangs’ in denial of their party’s abysmal economic and social record in power, constantly blaming the coalition for the results, speaks volumes for the opposition and their badly informed “sympathies”?

How blind is political ideology if bringing back most of the team that over 13-years of ‘continuity’ royally screwed both the economy and working classes - had no answers of their own to fix ANY OF IT in their 2010 General Election manifesto – is seen from 2015 as our economic and social future?

Dawndonnaagain …. I guess the Labour Party and their apologist propaganda, is why there is still an “average” Labour voter. Just a thought.

Mr Miliband is fair game, he was our last Labour Energy Minister, how did that work out for our nuclear power shortage and expected power outages at the first severe winter from here on – yet his answer is energy price controls/freezes on the companies Labour expected to both foot the £££billions reactor building costs, and then get their money back, how? Hardly a visionary, clearly I wouldn’t put any stupid comment (or policy) past him.

[rootypig]

My dear, you should have been in Leeds in the early 90s. It was beyond grim, utterly in the doldrums. The mistakes that New Labour made were in every case thoughtless concessions to neoliberalism; the Right has always been on the wrong side of history.

[dawndonnaagain]

Oh dear. Same old, same old. Tory bankers fucked the economy dear. Unless of course you can explain to me how the little old Labour Party in charge of just this sceptred isle managed to screw the world economy. No, thought not.
I agree Milliband is fair game, as is any politician. However, the headline at the top of the thread is a spoof, as has been pointed out by many.

Oh, and do take a look at the ONS website, the Tories have managed to borrow more since 2010 than the Labour Party did during the whole of their tenure, and whilst we're at it, it's interesting to note that those countries that didn't follow austerity policies are now out of recession, I know we claim we are, but a closer inspection of the figures does show things to be really quite precarious.

[JoycemynameisJoyce]

OP seems to post a lot of links to that site. Posts go - link to spoof news site, faux surprise, let's everyone else talk about post.

[TerrierandJune96]

Hi Joyces, you're right, I do frequently link to the Evening Harold. Of course its a spoof news website, but so is the Daily Mail or Express!

I guess it just appeals to my sense of humour. Irreverent etc.

[Isitmebut]

Rootypig …. ‘my dear’ are you talking about the 1990’s, after the recession early 1990’s; it seems to me most Labour supports do not understand the meaning of the word recession, never mind the greatest honking recession Labour left the coalition in over 80-years – FYI it is different from the economy Labour left in 1979 and inherited from the Conservatives in 1997, State spending needs to be brought under control, especially if it has been bloated beyond 1997 recognition.

Before ‘neoliberalism’ trade unions ensured their ‘member’s interests were over the those of the companies, how many of those British companies trying to compete with the German’s and Japanese were virtually bust in 1979, having seen the UK’s industrial output fall from under 30% of the economy to the low 20%’s over that decade? Only socialists ‘the left’ would celebrate ‘no jobs’ for their members over neoliberalism.

New Labour's problem, like every Labour government before it, concentrates on SPENDING, rather than the Private Sector that supports it, which is why a left wing government will always drive us into economic ruin and debt.

Below are a few paragraphs from another thread 'I prepared earlier'.

[Isitmebut]

........Layers of new bureaucrats, many on salaries twice yours and up, were ‘formed’ and called economic ‘growf’.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214001/The-cost-quango-Britain-hits-170bn--seven-fold-rise-Labour-came-power.html

Council Tax in relatively low inflation, went up over 110% under 13-years of Labour, why, if not to support the Public Sector growth of ‘non jobs’, some highly paid; if you or anyone dismiss the Daily Mail’s costs/figures and/or non jobs mentioned, please challenge them with qualified data of your own.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358144/Labours-3m-town-hall-jobs-bonanza-employed-deliver-frontline-services.html

In 2010, when like it or not figures I’ve seen show that the majority of the Public Sector employees had done better under Labour than the rest of us in the Private Sector, but where were Labour plans to CULL the £££hundreds of billion waste on Quangos, bureaucrats and non jobs, if nothing else, TO REFLECT ON THE ABILITY OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR to maintain this typical socialist ‘big state’ job fest?

Maybe if they’d addressed the growth in Public Sector ‘fat cats’, there might have been a bit of ‘wealth distribution’ to those lower paid Public Sector employees we need, rather than employed as a ‘taxpayer money is no object’, luxury.

So tell me, can you justify the years of Public Sector waste, when a government could spend a total of £570 billion a year, but not build NET new social housing to start compensate for the 2.5 million growth in our population, stuff the State pensioners with derisory annual increases, stuff the private pension provision mainly due to Brown’s tax raid in 1997/8, and ALLOW the unemployment in our 16-24 year olds that hit 580,000 in 2004, 711,000 before the financial crash and hand over to the coalition 921,000 unemployed youngsters by 2010????

Labour were borrowing to fund their fat State from 2001/2, over £30 billion a year before the crash, but after the tax receipts of businesses and those generated by public speculation and debt dissolved, it LEFT the bills but not the SUSTAINABLE tax/growth to cover them = the £157 bil annual budget deficit Labour cowardly passed to the coalition in 2010.

It seems to me socialism has changed it seems the relative ‘few’ in the Public Sector means more to Labour than the ‘masses’, nothing of course due to the fact they now rely on the Public Sector unions to ‘sponsor’ the majority of the Shadow Cabinets offices ,and fund around 90% of their General Election campaigns.

[rootypig]

Isit, I'd as soon get into a discussion with you as I would a small child! Your posting style is exhausting and your rants are economically illiterate. Though I do agree that Labour has abandoned the working population, especially the public sector, and that is why I will be voting Green.

Keep taking the pills

[Isitmebut]

Dawndonnaagain …. May I suggest you wait for my reply to your questions, rather than show your ignorance?

Labour/Brown decided on ‘lite touch’ banking regulation from 1997, Brown even lectured other countries on it, which is why the likes of mortgage lending grew near 5 fold from 1997 to 2008 and the average price of a home, went from £73k to £232k over that period. Why do you think Northern Rock went first bank to go and we were the only country to nationalise our banks in 2007, if our lending/debt excesses weren’t so bad?

UK banks over extended under Brown’s watch, and the financial recession due to a interbank closure worried about ‘contagion’, THEN BECAME AN ECONOMIC ONE – nothing to do with the Tories and all to do with Labour sucking up to the City, including donations from the likes of hedge funds, which is why Labour/Brown lowered the Capital Gains Tax to a 10% tapered low, as if you don’t know, few of the poor care about CGT.

Brown has apologised for letting the banks explosion in credit, would you like to see the link?

As for the Conservatives/coalition borrowing more than Labour, ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

Of course they are, if Labour handed over a broken economy and National Debt of around 1 trillion, and borrowing 157 billion a year, would every prefer they cut over 157 billion each year to reduce it?

As to ‘other countries’, can you tell me another European country INCREASED their spending as much as Brown in the 2000’s and in 2010 overspending by 157 billion, before you look at what ‘cuts’ they needed to make?
www.economicshelp.org/blog/5509/economics/government-spending-under-labour/

France was Miliband’s 2010 ‘economic model’, look at how it worked out for France.
“How Francois Hollande changed but Ed Miliband stayed the same.”
www.trendingcentral.com/francois-hollande-changed-ed-miliband-stayed/

And only Labour would keep raising ‘the jobs tax’ as a plan for sustainable economic ‘growf’’, Ballsian style.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/7539343/Labours-planned-National-Insurance-increase-will-cost-jobs-Alistair-Darling-admits.html
“In his evidence, Mr Darling defended his plans to increase national insurance, saying it was necessary to raise extra money to reduce Government borrowing, which will be £167 billion this year.”


The coalition, instead of taxing them to death, encouraged them via various reforms - hence we have 1.8 million new jobs since 2010.

Only the Labour faithful would think Labour did not cause the problems, and that lowering VAT and giving discounts on new cars AND raise the cost of employing someone, was any economic plan to address a 157 billion annual overspend and pay off our national debt. lol

[Isitmebut]

Rootypig ... I think the problem using ideological soundbites as gospel, is that they fall apart as soon as someone who cares about this country's future, presents the facts - hence I guess is why you get mean and throw out insults, rather than challenge ANY facts.


If it helps, similar to Mr Brown in 1997, Mr Miliband has recently stated 'no more (high) tax and spend' under Labour, which clearly is not for 'the faithful' - it's for those that have woken up to their economic and social incompetence by policy design, through the good years - and worry what Labour in 2015 with a £100 billion annual deficit will run the country,

The danger is 'oldish Labour goes back to the.penal income/business tax 'model' of 1979, that killed economic growth and jobs.


But Mr Brown reneged on his promises of 1997, even said 'no more boom and bust', while funny old world, was responsible in the UK for 'the mother' of both over the space of 13-years - so it's in Labour's DNA, we 'non believers', shouldn't hold our breath.