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IrnBruTheNoo · 17/11/2013 19:50

Hard to believe that a couple who are doing a good job raising their DC are being slated like this...

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kerry-mcdougall-dumb-married-mum-2799857

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FreeAtLastAtLongLast · 17/11/2013 19:55

This is outrageous Hmm

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RedLondonBus · 17/11/2013 19:55

slated by whom?

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TheCrackFox · 17/11/2013 19:56

Seems very cruel.

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claig · 17/11/2013 20:38

Sadly, there are too many of these stories of SWs removing children for these "reasons".

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claig · 17/11/2013 20:40

Fortunately, there is one MP, John Hemming, who helps parents in these cases

johnhemming.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/mark-and-kerry-mcdougall.html

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claig · 17/11/2013 20:42

I don't know if John Hemming is helping in this case, but he has helped in other cases

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BacardiBat · 17/11/2013 20:46

John Hemming is a loon and best not mentioned here,

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RedLondonBus · 17/11/2013 20:50

god Hemming?? he's a trouble maker,and yes,best not mentioned here

two sides to every story....we have only one

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Onesleeptillwembley · 17/11/2013 20:59

Frankly, I wouldn't trust anything written by somebody that describes a person with learning difficulties 'dumb'.

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morethanpotatoprints · 17/11/2013 21:12

If there is somebody who can help them, good for him and them

This is disgusting and seems like there is no other side of the story. They have been deemed fit parents apparently.

Its about time that sw's were given autonomy to stop the real child abusers, murderers and neglectful.

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claig · 17/11/2013 21:15

An article from 2010 says that John Hemming was helping the couple

"LibDem MP John Hemming, who has been supporting the couple, said: ‘There is no evidence that Mark and Kerry cannot be good parents and I just hope that the Irish authorities can resolve this as quickly as possible.’ "

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245190/Mother-clever-raise-child-baby-removed-social-workers-running-away.html

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Corygal · 17/11/2013 21:18

Thing is, a huge number of women who have their children taken into care have very low IQs. They also have awful boyfriends, violence in their lives, and often don't cope with childcare. It's these - the violence and neglect - that should justify removal, not simply the SEN.

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RedLondonBus · 17/11/2013 21:22

ss are privy to more info than us and john hemming! they aren't going to publish it are they?

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IrnBruTheNoo · 18/11/2013 11:44

She should be given support, not have the children taken away from her. If they've managed this far to raise the children without very little support, they're doing better than many out there.

So many other mums struggle to feed their children, and see to even their most basic needs.

I agree there are two sides to a story, but looking at the couple, they do seem to be doing a good job raising them so far.

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MatildaMai · 18/11/2013 11:58

SS do not need to provide any evidence at all for "risk of emotional harm" to remove children.

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wetaugust · 18/11/2013 12:14

Very vindictive of the LA.

But also the couple didn't exercise a lot of common sense by returning to the same LA area. They could have chosed an different area within Scotland. They've made themselves sitting targets.

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IrnBruTheNoo · 18/11/2013 14:19

They went back to the same LA because of family links. Makes sense when you kind of think about it. If you've got a family, good to have that support around you (whether you've SEN or not).

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Rockhopper1 · 18/11/2013 14:43

John Hemming is certainly NOT a 'loon '.. He is a v good & brave man who works tirelessly for child protection . Read his blog if you have any doubts on that score

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wetaugust · 18/11/2013 15:56

I agree Rockhopper. He's one of the few along with Christopher Booker, who is actually speaking out against the abuse of SS.

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gingerchick · 18/11/2013 16:04

John hemming is a major shit stirrer and conspiracy theorist if will not help their case he is more likely to severely hinder it do a quick google search!

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BackforGood · 18/11/2013 16:14

SS are damned if they get involved and damned if they don't.
Clearly the full picture isn't available, as soc services wouldn't be allowed to publish it. This is just an emotive bit of "journalism" where anybody with an iota of intelligence knows it is only stating the story from the perspective of the parents, and there is no possibility that SS can expand upon what the parents want the press to think.
Doesn't anyone remember the outcry there is each time a child dies, because soc services haven't done enough ?

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Rockhopper1 · 18/11/2013 18:48

Before anyone denigrates John Hemmings they should familiarise themselves with the work of Dr Liz Davies . She has an excellent blog .

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claig · 18/11/2013 19:39

Well said Rockhopper1

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StealthPolarBear · 18/11/2013 19:44

So why do you think the social workers are doing it? For kicks? A good story in the pub? Because they're bored and don't have enough to do?
Plus if a "protection order" is the same as child protection plan in England that does not mean taken into care. It means social workers getting involved with vulnerable children and their parents to look out for the boys. The evil gits.

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claig · 18/11/2013 19:52

I don't know about this case.

But here is a report from the BBC

"Babies are being removed from their parents so that councils can meet adoption targets, MPs have claimed.

The MPs fear a rise in the number of young children being taken into care in England and Wales is linked to pressure on councils to increase adoption rates.

Lib Dem MP John Hemming, who has tabled a Commons motion on the issue, said it was a "national scandal"."

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6297573.stm

"In 2000, ministers set a target of a 50% increase in the number of children in local authority being adopted by March 2006.

According to the latest available figures, the number of "looked after" children being adopted had gone up from 2,700 in 2000 to 3,700 in 2004, an increase of 37.7%.

The biggest rise was in the one to four-year-old age range."

This large increase seems to have occurred under New Labour.
Why, I don't know.

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