@Crumbledwalnuts
"The police had reason to believe he was carrying secret information. His flights were paid for by the Guardian and he was ferrying info between two journalists known to be investigating government surveillance work and known to have been in possession of classified information and to have contact with a known CIA whistleblower - all acknowledged by the Guardian."
My point is that at least in some cases, "investigating government surveillance work" is legitimate journalistic activity, and such activity may involve handling leaked classified documents. In particular, if that government surveillance work exceeds the boundaries of what is ethical or legal, then the public has a right to know about it and journalists should be free to report on it. [Also FWIW most of the Snowden material concerns the NSA, not the CIA.]
I don't believe we should be required to blindly trust those in authority in the matter of surveillance, there needs to be proper legal/parliamentary oversight, and I fail to see how that can be the case if the very existence of those surveillance programmes is kept a secret. There's no place in a democracy for the attitude that "the government knows what's best for us" and that anybody who questions what the government is doing in the name of national security is a seditious element.
Of course it's important that any classified documents are handled responsibly by journalists, i.e. no information that compromises the safety of individuals is released. The government seems to be suggesting that publishing any information about surveillance methods "aids terrorists" by giving them the opportunity to adapt their methods to evade surveillance. I might find that argument persuasive in the case of targeted surveillance methods, but the Snowden revelations have thus far been about blanket/dragnet surveillance which affects millions of innocent people (UK/US citizens) who are not suspected of any wrongdoing.
"Basically they had loads of reasons to stop him"
What reasons? You seem to be implying that Miranda has broken the law/committed some kind of criminal offense, but don't say in what way. It's debatable whether whistleblowers acting in (what they perceive to be) the public interest are committing a criminal offence. What about journalists handling leaked material? In the last case of a GCHQ whistleblower (Katharine Gun) the government case against the whistleblower collapsed and certainly no journalists were prosecuted.
"it's just they may have used the wrong power in order to hold him for longer and make him hand over his stuff."
This summary of the case has a good response to this argument:
So to sum up: Miranda?s main argument is that the police used terrorism legislation to question him about something unrelated to terrorism. If they wanted to question him about the journalistic material he was carrying, they should have used another law.
You might think this seems like he is arguing over a technicality, but that ignores his main point. Miranda argues that the terrorism law he was detained under meant that he had less rights than he would usually have been given if the police had used the (arguably) correct legislation.
The concern is that the police?s use of terrorism laws to prevent seemingly legitimate journalistic activity is an action expected in a totalitarian regime like Russia, not a (supposed) defender of freedom like the United Kingdom.
"to some extent he was the one who put his dp at risk of arrest"
"well quite, he really shouldn't be getting uppity"
Certainly the decision to travel via London seems questionable, but suggesting that Greenwald/Miranda therefore have no cause to feel aggrieved that Miranda was detained and interrogated for 9hrs without access to his lawyer smells like victim blaming.
And to paint David Miranda as some kind of drug mule because he was carrying documents for his partner is pretty cheap and shabby.
@Wannabestepfordwife
I will be interested to see what happens when miranda's visa is up for renewal
What visa? David Miranda is a Brazilian citizen living in Rio. He was a transit passenger flying from Berlin to Rio via London; he never entered the UK (in the sense of passing through UK border controls) so he doesn't need a visa.