The April Jones trial has started

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The trial of Mark Bridger for the abduction and murder of April Jones plus some other charges has started today. From what I've read of the initial statements given by the prosecution, it's clearly going to be a very distressing case.
My thoughts are with all in court including the jury but most especially with April's parents who are in court. I don't know how they can bear it.

rosellis Mon 17-Jun-13 21:25:12

http://blockchildporn.org/ - please share and support this campaign which I've started in the wake of the Mark Bridger murder of April Jones

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"pc brigade" get out phrase for the hard of thinking.

Pagwatch Mon 03-Jun-13 10:11:43

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Angers Mon 03-Jun-13 10:04:00

Lottieandmia "The point is, she was not 'on the streets' - the area outside her house is like an extended garden. Secondly, if he had not taken April he would have taken another child. We know that the first child he approached was 10 - would you say a 10 year old shouldn't play outside??"
Without even realizing it you've made a similar point, the 10yr old said no, a 10yr old is more equipped to make a safety decision than a 5yr old.
Asked above what age is safe? 5,6,7 in my opinion, NO. 8 / 9 / 10 onwards, only the parents will be able to judge if they are mentally equipped.

How many times, they lived in a remote village. Your story does not compare.

Pagwatch Mon 03-Jun-13 09:14:08

Was that what you put in your PMs?

The use of PC brigade really is a crock of shit.

Angers Mon 03-Jun-13 09:10:04

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phantomnamechanger Sat 01-Jun-13 18:17:42

and now we have yet another very sad case in the media - the murder of a 17 yo girl when she went out to meet friends - anyone care to say she should not have gone out? that it's the parents fault?

you can never guarantee 100% against all eventualities.

the attitude of some people on here disgusts me, it really does. This sort of thing happens to families who have absolute trust in the person doing the offending (eg female nursery worker case, parish priest). These people worm their way into communities and are expert con artists.

donnie Sat 01-Jun-13 17:40:40

Angers: let me explain something to you. Blame is not 'portioned'. Blame is 'apportioned'. There is no such verb as 'portion'. You are not only a weird stalking troll, PMing all and sundry, but you are also dim. I cannot understand why MN is not barring you, given that you are stalkingPMing people with vile comments.

MatersMate Sat 01-Jun-13 10:32:43

I was making a point that you can't keep your child 100% 'safe' from someone intent on doing them harm their whole lives, and used JB and others as examples, angers however, has never let her children out of her sight, so never has to worry hmm

What's with the PM nonsense? Why would she do that? confused

Hobnobs I agree - there's some sort of mysterious age/time of day equation that some are privy to hmm

The only one to blame is Mark Bridger, anyone that can't see that needs to read the individual story and realise they lived in a tiny village fgs.
This thread is about April, not past cases of other children!
Stop insulting James Bulgers parents to whoever is, fgs have some empathy. Are you perfect has your child never slipped your hand?

This isn't about parenting, stick to the subject at hand.

MatersMate Sat 01-Jun-13 10:17:48

"James Bulger, his Mum turned her back for a second in a busy shopping Mall, her fault was it?" YES blame should be portioned.... He was TWO yrs old, why was he not on a safety harness hooked to her wrist????

Another one receiving PMs from Angers
Thanks for the special attention love, but can you stick to the thread in future?

lurcherlover Sat 01-Jun-13 10:04:34

Would those blaming the parents also think that if I chose to walk alone late at night in a short skirt and got raped, that would be partly my fault? How far do you go with the victim blaming?

If I don't put the calpol out of reach and my toddler poisons himself, it's an accident but it's my fault. If I leave him unsupervised downstairs when I know he can open the front door and he ends up on the main road, it's negligence on my part. If a pervert abducts and murders my child - that is NOT my fault. FGS, try walking in their shoes for a moment.

I'm curious, those blaming the parents because April was out aged 5, would it still be her parents fault had she been 6? Or 7, 8, 10, 15? At what magic number would they be absolved of blame and who gets to decide that number?
Just curious

Pagwatch Sat 01-Jun-13 09:32:46

Octopus

Actually many of us thought, and continue to think, that the blaming of Madeleine McCanns parents was vile, unwarranted and tasteless. Your suggestion that everyone on here was ready to 'tear Maddys patents a new one' is completely incorrect.

fromparistoberlin Sat 01-Jun-13 09:23:38

kitty

my DH is from a little island in the middle of nowehere, and kids play out day and night

I am from a large city and there is NO way I would let my DC play out (also 5) but in rural areas (globally) its VVVVV different, and we have to respect and acknowledge that

CoalDustWoman Sat 01-Jun-13 00:01:39

Why are people so keen to mitigate the behaviour of those who do harmful things by transferring responsibility to others? Is it simply that they think they can ensure that bad things don't happen to those close to them? What a terrifying existence for them and those close to them...

Surely you don't think that all men are rapists and paedophiles? That's reserved for mythical-feminist, isn't it?

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 31-May-13 23:48:39

Ahem

Growlithe Fri 31-May-13 23:46:05

And Octopus have you been to that butcher's shop in Bootle Strand where James Bulger slipped away from his mum? I know exactly the shop as it was. It was a small rectangular shop, with the front completely open on a short end to the indoor shopping centre and a counter down one long side. There was always a long queue.

I can see exactly how a grumpy bored two year old can slip away from his mum. I can also see why his mum would think he couldn't get too far.

You cannot always factor into every decision you make, or eye you take off the ball, the presence of such evil. If you thought like that, you couldn't live your life. You'd never take your children out.

CremeEggThief Fri 31-May-13 23:39:01

shock at Octopus.

Octopus, this is nothing like maddies case ffs, how can you even compare it. Jeez, it was a small village in the middle of nowhere, you would think your child would be safe. Stop insulted the parents, they will be suffering enough without reading this shit for crying out loud!!!

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