British woman sentenced to death in Bali

(25 Posts)
BegoniaBampot Fri 25-Jan-13 07:44:07

I'll be very surprised if she is executed.

meditrina Fri 25-Jan-13 07:36:11

She'll get consular assistance from FCO: they will ensure she the law is being applied normally to her, that she is being held in adequate conditions (no worse than a local in similar position would), that she has access to health care etc, and can help find an English-speaking lawyer (but cannot pay for one, but will help alert eg family/friends in UK who might be able to send funds).

diddl Fri 25-Jan-13 07:31:18

I don´t see why she shouldn´t be executed just because she isn´t a local.

If you commit a crime in a country-shouldn´t you pay the penalty of that country?

photographerlady Thu 24-Jan-13 13:36:31

The thing that pisses me off is that she was involved in this drug smuggling and profited from it yet she wants the UK to pay for her appeal lawyer.

BegoniaBampot Wed 23-Jan-13 23:42:55

Singapore executed an Australian national a good few years ago and as Singapore is one of the more western and more tolerant countries in Asia then is t's not so surprising but I doubt they will actually execute her.

scaevola Wed 23-Jan-13 11:10:25

I'm against the death penalty, but it exists in Indonesia and (from the news yesterday) although most foreigners do have the death penalty commuted somehow, there have been at least 5 executions of foreigners and many many more of their own nationals.

Nancy66 Wed 23-Jan-13 11:05:22

From what I've read of her background she sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant woman.

I don't want her to be executed though and I doubt she will be. However, I have no problem with her spending a long time in prison.

Scaredycat3000 Wed 23-Jan-13 11:02:56

I saw a newspaper review on telly the wright show this morning and I think it was The Times that had an piece about how she was 'a neighbour from hell' ans was well known in her home town as a Indonesian drugs mule. I can't find the piece. If this was true it would put a different spin on it and possibly explain the sentence?
She knew the consequences of what she was doing, I have no sympathy for her regardless of the back story.

Morloth Wed 23-Jan-13 00:42:08

Indonesia doesn't give a damn about any of that stuff twofingers.

Westerners often forget that while their home countries are generally fairly soft, many places in the world still operate on much more brutal lines.

You toe the line or you don't bloody go. It doesn't take a genius to work that out.

5 kilos of cocaine could kill an awful lot of people.

twofingerstoGideon Tue 22-Jan-13 19:34:40

According to BBC news this evening, this woman suffers from long term mental health issues and was particularly targeted to act as a 'mule' because of this. I have no idea if that's true, or not, but I think it's worth remembering that some people are very susceptible to being 'groomed' in this way.

Saying 'she knew the risks when she did it' is pre-supposing that she is of normal intelligence, could rationalise her decision and wasn't being horribly exploited/intimidated by a third party.

I do think it's worth pausing to think about things a bit more deeply before jumping to any conclusions. Of course, she may be a ruthless criminal, in which case she deserves to be punished - although I don't agree with the death penalty in any circumstances.

hermioneweasley Tue 22-Jan-13 14:03:33

I'm not a fan if the death sentence, but I can think of many causes more worthy of sympathy and support before we get to British drug smugglers.

torychicetc Tue 22-Jan-13 12:44:29

I hope Cogito is right. It probably is a sentence to get massive publicity as a warning to others

Viviennemary Tue 22-Jan-13 12:32:33

Well she has given the death sentence to people by her evil trade.

Mrsrobertduvall Tue 22-Jan-13 12:12:24

I have little sympathy either.
Trying to make money out of other people's misery.
Utter scum.

2old2beamum Tue 22-Jan-13 11:46:49

Despite being totally against the death penalty she was incredibly stupid and as MissyMoo said how many lives would 5K cocaine ruin

Drug smugglers don't care about the lives that will be ruined by the drugs they carry, the only life they seem to care about is their own when they get caught. She knew the risks when she did it. I can't say that I feel much sympathy for her really.

fuckadoodlepoopoo Tue 22-Jan-13 11:06:35

Eek that's awful!

somebloke123 Tue 22-Jan-13 11:03:53

Yes I think that's right. The real killer country (both metaphorically and literally) is Singapore, where the death sentence is mandatory for quite small quantities, and reprieves are never granted.

scaevola Tue 22-Jan-13 08:36:16

I though both Thailand and Malaysia both commuted death sentences passed on foreigners, then normal procedures for serving sentences in home countries can apply.

Does Indonesia do that?

CogitoErgoSometimes Tue 22-Jan-13 08:30:48

I expect there will now be a big diplomatic effort on this woman's behalf and - probably in exchange for something positive from HM Gov - her sentence altered to a custodial one served in the UK. I think that's how the last one of these went in Thailand or wherever it was.

scaevola Tue 22-Jan-13 07:21:23

BBC Breakfast covering this story; from angle that sentence is much more severe than typical (apparently even prosecution surprised).

Does Indonesia actually carry out execution of foreigners?

She must have known the consequences.

TwoFacedCows Tue 22-Jan-13 06:28:20

what did she expect? why on earth would you risk smuggling drugs to a country with the death penalty?

TheNebulousBoojum Tue 22-Jan-13 06:19:28

I'm against the death penalty for anyone, British or not.

NicholasTeakozy Tue 22-Jan-13 06:17:58

BBC link, not much detail. Apparently the prosecution asked for a custodial sentence and the judges gave her death.

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