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Leveson - the outcome

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bunchamunchycrunchycarrots · 28/11/2012 22:14

previous thread & another one

So, the report will finally be made public tomorrow - wonder what the outcome will be? Will Cameron actually go with the recommendations or not?

Hmm

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bunchamunchycrunchycarrots · 29/11/2012 00:11
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Nancy66 · 29/11/2012 09:33

PCC disbanded to be replaced with new independent ruling body would be my guess....i'd be happy with that

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bunchamunchycrunchycarrots · 29/11/2012 09:35

With the 'statutory underpinnings' Hugh grant/hacked off have been pushing for? Or do you think there is no need to add 'teeth' to a new independent body?

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Nancy66 · 29/11/2012 09:43

No - i don't want state involvement.

An independent governing body should be sufficient - something similar to the Independent Police Complaints Commission

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bunchamunchycrunchycarrots · 29/11/2012 09:47

I actually think if the police actually dealt with those who break the law, instead of being wined and dined by them, there really wouldn't be any need for additional laws etc. it'll be interesting to see how Cameron and clegg react seeing as clegg wants to make his own statement.

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QuickLookBusy · 29/11/2012 10:35

Yes, today is going to be very interesting. Lets hope something good comes out of it all.

I think the press have too much power and do ruin lives. it must stop hounding innocent people and using the excuse that gossip/innuendo is in the public interest, when on occasion it clearly isn't.

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picketywick · 29/11/2012 12:04

Levison matters But most people are not interested.

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PetiteRaleuse · 29/11/2012 12:10

I agree, an independent non political body would be good. Self regulation hasn't worked. New laws would set a frightening precedent. Press freedom should be maintained, but of course something has to change. An independent body would be a good compromise and the only viable solution.

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HappyAsEyeAm · 29/11/2012 12:10

Something akin to OFCOM, I hope. OFCOM is taken pretty seriously, much more seriously than the PCC. Or maybe extending OFCOM so that it cover all media.

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Nancy66 · 29/11/2012 12:23

info leaking out now - seems an independent body with statutory regulations is being recommended

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PetiteRaleuse · 29/11/2012 12:51

What time is the official release? You say it's being leaked...

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grovel · 29/11/2012 13:10

1.30.

Cameron opens parliamentary debate at 3.00.

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ParsingFancy · 29/11/2012 13:21

Email on the BBC Live Text bar which encapsulates the conundrum:

"12:49... The Leveson Inquiry should conclude that it is in the best interest of the UK as a democratic society to keep the Press totally free. They are the ONLY check and balance on the political class and the financially powerful."

But parts of the Press ARE the political class and financially powerful.

That's the point.

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PetiteRaleuse · 29/11/2012 14:03

From what I can see it's pretty fair.

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slug · 29/11/2012 14:14

My favourite tweet so far was yesterday by Dr Phil Hammond

"Leveson in brief. Every prime minister for 40 years has slept in Murdoch's arse. Cameron was up there when the music stopped. Next to Hunt"

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Viviennemary · 29/11/2012 14:36

Well the government is in the pockets of the press. They dare not offend them or else. I was interested in Leveson at first but it has dragged on so long I've lost interest. And I think todays statement will be nothing but a load of waffle and won't change anything. I will be quite happy to be proved wrong!

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Nancy66 · 29/11/2012 14:40

initial thoughts are that it's pretty fair too

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PetiteRaleuse · 29/11/2012 15:48

Cameron is coming across as a little shifty in this afternoon's debate. I don't see what his issues are with the recommendations, apart from the limitations on the Data Protection aspect, possibly.

The recommendations do seem very sensible. Hardly the attack on press freedom that the press have obviously been worried about.

What would happen to the pcc? I have missed any mention of this so far.

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MoreBeta · 29/11/2012 16:00

I think the idea put forward by Leveson of an Arbitration body backed up by legislation is a good one.

The idea of a quick, low cost body staffed by knowledgable people but independent of the media to adjudicate on press complaints is similar to arbitration panels that sit regularly at short notice, sometimes in the middle of the night, to resolve shipping disputes where time is of the essence.

Clearly avoiding the need for long and expensive court cases to resolve what are relativley minor civil matters makes sense.

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MoreBeta · 29/11/2012 16:06

Good early analysis of the politics over at Guido Fawkes.

Tory HQ happy with conclusions but PM does not want to legislate. Worried about Ofcom being put in charge.

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bunchamunchycrunchycarrots · 29/11/2012 17:17

I'm delighted Piers Morgan has been highlighted by Leveson as being 'utterly unpersuasive' in his evidence. This was one interpretation of it - Morgan was aware phone hacking was taking place in press as a whole and was sufficiently unembarrassed by criminal behaviour to joke about it

I think I prefer the 'liar liar pants on fire' summary myself Grin

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PetiteRaleuse · 29/11/2012 17:19

Didn't he explain in one of his books how they went about it? I'm sure I read the technique in one of his diary books.

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Hummingbirds · 29/11/2012 18:19

Has anyone posted this link yet? It makes startling background reading for anyone hoping to understand the Leveson Inquiry.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233681/Leveson-Inquiry-Mail-dossier-raises-disturbing-questions-influence-quasi-masonic-nexus-people-know-best.html

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msrisotto · 29/11/2012 19:50

Here's a picture of a surprising recommendation!

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msrisotto · 29/11/2012 20:03

Sorry don't know what happened there, here it is again

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