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Victoria Beckham,Bad mother or not?

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charlize · 19/11/2003 11:41

I used to think that posh came across as a really loving caring mum who had her priorities right.
Brooklyn seemed to go every where with her and there were lots of pics in the press of her dressed down out shopping etc with him. I really admired the way she juggled work and family life and respected the way she prefered not have a nanny but have family members help out.

In fact she said several times in interviews and I believe in her book that it was v important to her not to have a nanny, but to raise brooklyn as a family unit.

Am I the only one to think this has totally gone out of the window since she had Romeo.
That poor baby seems to have hardly seen his mother since he was born.
He has been taken to hospital 3 times in 5 weeks and only one of those times was his mother in the same country as him.
Not to the mention that those two kids must have no stucture or routine to there lives at all.
One minute there in Madrid the next London Then Manchestwr, then New York then Japan.
How many air miles has Romeo clocked up in just 14 mths. And how healthy is this?
To me she seems incredibly selfish, She has millions in the bank for gods sake, she can afford to cut back a little on the globe trotting surley even if just for a few months so the kids can settle in one place and perhaps she could be bothered to finally enrole brookly in school.
Rant over

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M2T · 19/11/2003 11:45

Charlize - Really, that is just your observations and is INCREDIBLY judgemental!

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charlize · 19/11/2003 11:48

Can I just add, Iam all for working mums, Iam one myself
I even take the odd buissness trip abroad, but my kids are at home secure, not carted off around the world then left with various bodyguards.
But how many of us with her millions would act the way she does. I for one would give up wprk like a shot but i understand those who don't. But Iam guessing we would all want to spend more time with our families not less.

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WSM · 19/11/2003 11:49

Hmm, I thought that she had stated that Brooklyn would be enrolled in a school in spain (she did name it) and also one in this country and would spend his year 50/50

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charlize · 19/11/2003 11:50

Sorry M2t, I don't mean to come across as judgemental. But your right they are my observations, perhaps Iam judging her a bit.

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charlize · 19/11/2003 11:53

yes wsm I read that too. If that is true it is v selfish of her, in my opinion.
It can't possibly benefit Brooklyn to be in two differnt schools.
Can you imagine if any of us suggested that to our headteachers

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WSM · 19/11/2003 11:56

I know, mine gets pi$$ed off if I take DS out of school for a week in the sun ! Although to be honest I don't know what I would do for the best if I was her. Home Education would sort the continutity issue but then what about the social side of school for childrens development ?

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oliveoil · 19/11/2003 11:56

Well the 2 boys are never going to have what we would term a 'normal' life, they live in a goldfish bowl. Have you noticed how Brooklyn is always pictured waving at the cameras?

I think it must be hard for them, damned if you do etc.

But I wish she would stop wearing high heeled mules for the school run, buy some trainers woman!

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Blu · 19/11/2003 11:59

I suspect that it's very hard indeed to make any real judgement about celebrity parents, since everytihng that goes public goes through their PR machine...OF COURSE she was photographed like that, and OF COURSE there are no photos of a nanny, so very hard to say what it was really like in the first place!

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Northerner · 19/11/2003 12:02

I think labelling her a bad mother is a bit harsh. Yes she travels lots often with kids in tow somtimes alone, leaving them with whoever. But we do not know what she is like as a parent. Yes from the outside it looks like her kids need stability and a permanant base, but who are we to judge? It seems to me she is so desperate to have her own career and be sucessful in her own right she simply does not want to give it all up and simply be a stay at home Mrs Beckham. I'm sure she feels guilty enough without people like us adding to it.

BTW I'm not usually a VB fan!

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janh · 19/11/2003 12:04

Last I heard Brooklyn was going to have a tutor at home (???)

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charlize · 19/11/2003 12:11

Lol olive oil. On the trainers. Every time she pictured she has those flippin heels on.
Plus micro mini, of course.
I think your right though Northerner, My choice of topic heading does seem a tad harsh, but Iam new to this,and should have put it more tactfully.
I doubt VB would ever have the time to log on to mumsnet though.
I can't help it , I love bitchin about celebs.

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katierocket · 19/11/2003 12:13

how the hell can you judge someone who you don't even know charlize? you have no idea what she is like, how she brings her children up. you are basing your comments on third and fourth hand testimonies in the (hardly honest) press. I'm not defending VB but how would you like someone to make judgements on the way you bring up your kids when they had never met you or anyone you actually knew you.

sorry to sound like mr angry but tabloid journalism has a lot to answer for.

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SoupDragon · 19/11/2003 12:14

What does it matter if she travels with the children when they're still pre-school age? It's the best time to do it! You also seem to be criticising her both for taking the children with her and for being out of the country without Romeo.

There are far worse mothers than VB.

Can't say that I follow her life at all TBH so I have no idea what she does.

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Northerner · 19/11/2003 12:16

Charlize - I too love bitching about celebs. I'm the first to slag off her dress sense I think she looks a bit like a transvestite now a days. A bit of trailer trash with all her blinging jewellry. AND I've never understood why DB is considered a sex god, and Justin Timberlake for that matter.

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katierocket · 19/11/2003 12:18

shame on you northerner for not appreciating JT's loveliness

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charlize · 19/11/2003 12:19

Katie, Iam aware that the press don't exactly always tell the whole truth. But it is Fact that Brooklyn and Romeo have been in several counties in the last couple of months, with or without their parents, that is what I was commenting on.
I take it you don't like bitchin about celebs then.

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charlize · 19/11/2003 12:24

Soupdragon I suppose Iam criticising her for being out of the country withour romeo.
She seems to take needless publicity trips all the time.
Iam just saying that if I had her millions I wouldn't leave the kids as much as she does.

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M2T · 19/11/2003 12:26

I thin they are both doing a fantastic job at keeping their kids out of the limelight.... if that is constured as being neglectful then how misguided it THAT??!!

They live a different way to us, but those children are very clearly loved by their parents.

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katierocket · 19/11/2003 12:28

I'm not bothered about bitching about celebs it's the fact that you are making a judgement about what she is like as a mother. SOrry but I just think it's nasty and based on bugger all factual evidence. A few pics of her getting on and off a plane and a bit of news about where they are and what they are doing is hardly a sound basis for deciding that "that poor baby seems to have hardly seen his mother since he was born". how do you know? do you know them or did you read it in a paper

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sykes · 19/11/2003 12:33

I bumped into her and her sister once, literally, at my health club in Herts. I was v pregnant and she was very sweet. One of my friends is an actor's agent who met VB when she was making a move to become an actress. He said she was very polite, sweet and totally in love with her baby - Brooklyn, who she took to the meeting.

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bundle · 19/11/2003 12:34

I don't have a bodyguard () but I decided when dd was little that I didn't want to use a workplace nursery because it's in central London and I didn't want her to traipse into town on the tube with me everyday, but I know parents who do and it doesn't make them bad people. Each to their own I suppose

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Blu · 19/11/2003 12:36

Perhaps she DOES log on....what's your posting name, Posh?

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charlize · 19/11/2003 12:38

Katie Why are you getting so worked up?
I can only apologise if I have upset , it honsestly wasn't my intention.
This was my first attempt at a thread and I have obviously made a pigs ear of it, and seem to have come across as a nasty person.
I wasn't expecting this and admit I feel v hurt by your assumptions about me, katie.
Unlike Vb Iam reading this thread .
I can only apologise again and stress that I don't want any bickering. I absolutly hate that and it is why I have never posted on other sites.
But mumsnet seems to be v friendly, and after reading other celeb threads I thought I was with like minded mums.
I realise I only have myself to blame, so Iam going to get on with some work for a change. And hopefully this wil die out.

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codswallop · 19/11/2003 12:41

the whole thing abut Mn is that its judgemental!!

Honestly

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codswallop · 19/11/2003 12:42

If C wants to slag off then thats fine - normally you lot are all "oh well thas your opinion" blar de blar

why not when its about celebs?

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