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Is this advanced?

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ilovemyflipflops · 20/10/2008 17:26

My dd is 23 months, people are always commenting on how bright she is, her speech amazes me everday. Today though she amazed me with her drawing, not scribbles as i would have thought she should be doing at this age? but lots of triangles. This was not with me showing her (although i have lots of times drawn shapes to show her, she's always asking us to draw things). Today this was while she was drawing on her own, i could hear her saying "triangle" each time she drew one, i thought i'd look over to see something that was more of a wobbly attempt at one, but these were perfect triangles. Is this early?? she's been drawing circles for a long while, which i thought was probably quite normal for a 1 year old but triangles?? also she draws faces alot, she drew her first face at 17 months. Is that early too??

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suwoo · 20/10/2008 17:28

Tis super early in comparison to my DS of the same age who barely knows his own name .

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TrinityLovesHerVampireRhino · 20/10/2008 17:28

gecko draws faces ish and can say everything you ask her to
knows what a circle is
and uses a hell of a lot of words correctly
says pees and fankuuu

shes 20 months

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Blandmum · 20/10/2008 17:30

Too early to say if it is a blip or something more. she sounds great fun, enjoy.

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LynetteScavo · 20/10/2008 17:31

Oh, yes she is advanced.

But every mumsnetters child is advanced at their own thing.

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DartmoorMama · 20/10/2008 17:44

My dd was similar but to be honest by the time they are 5 or 6 most kids will have caught up. I think kids who talk clearly very early or do things like drawing do stand out massively at that age and they do seem to have and aptitude for language and whatever particular thing they excel in but other children catch up. Little ones can have massive focus on things that catch their imagination as drawing sounds like it has with your dd, so she will naturally get good at it-not that it makes it any less valuable.

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seeker · 20/10/2008 17:51

I don't think the talking thing means much - I've posted on here about my dd " The Incredible Talking Baby". She was a local celebrity for about half an hour because she appeared on local TV talking about the new swimming pool at about 16 months. She started talking at 9 months and was having conversations with people she didn't know by about 14 months. She is now an averagely bright 12 year old. Einstein on the other hand didn't talk til he was 3!

It's huge fun having a chatterer - enjoy it and amaze your friends. It's a cool trick to have them in the supermarket trolley and watch people's faces when this little dot announces that " 'martoes are 'gusting". But I would relax about it - if she's still superbright when she starts school it may be time to think more about it.

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CrushWithEyeliner · 20/10/2008 17:51

my DD is 23 months and knows shapes and has drawn faces and shapes and colours for the longest time. We are both v artistic and I was quite a gifted painter -won awards stuff like that- so I figure there is just a gene there... is that the same for either of you?

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ilovemyflipflops · 20/10/2008 19:16

CrushWithEyeliner yes i have an Art degree, so maybe a gene thing with the drawing, who knows.

The way she forms sentences is blowing my mind at the moment she seems to hear words and sentences once now, repeats them and uses them properly. She constantly asks me to name everything and likes me to descibe everything i'm doing.. Which i love doing for her but it's exhausting! she's definetly one hungry sponge! Anything she comes across she doesn't know she brings to me and asks me 'what's this?' she didn't know what colour a cream lego brick was today so came and asked me it's colour.

Seeker i fill up with pride when she names all the things she knows in the supermarket, i know she looks too dinky to be speaking so well. Maybe it will all slow down by the time she goes to school and others will catch up, but she does at the moment seem so ahead of others i know her age. Oh and luckily she's not using the word 'gusting yet, tends to use 'yuck' instead.. which is just charming when its about my cooking

I don't know if this will make any sense to anyone.. i now have a second baby, a 16 week old, and to me he seems more baby like.. don't laugh... stay with me here... to me my dd always seemed like an old soul when she was a baby, does that sound stupid?!

I know, i know like everyone i'm a proud mum who thinks her child is a genius... But please humour me in my 'i'm feeling like i gave birth to a mini Einstein' moment as i'm new to this site

From all the things she's said so far this is my favourite by far.. the other day she wanted to talk to her Nana who i was on the phone to, she said to me "mummy, Rara phone, (can't quite say her name yet) mummy kitchen, go make a cup of tea" genius, she wanted the phone so devised a plan to get me out of the room. God help me what's she going to be like at 18 if she's already trying to get me out of the way at 23 months!

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ElfOnTheTopShelf · 20/10/2008 19:21

My DD could draw and recognise circles, squares, diamonds, stars and rectangles earlier than 23 months. She also recognised numbers and colours "early".
She has excellent vocab as well.
We have never thought that she is G&T - I thought it was really difficult to know until they were older as children can average out.
I just see my DD as great fun and enjoying what she tells me
If they're "brighter than average" they sass you earlier

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lijaco · 20/10/2008 20:46

pre school children have brains that develop at different rates. That is why some walk early, others talk early, etc etc. every child is different and obviously your childs brain has developed quickly in this specific area. I believe that every child has fantastic potential and it is very difficult to judge at such a young age. The brain is very complex and develops in different areas at different speeds. My 17 month old can talk brilliantly,every body comments at how well he chats and understands everythingyou say,but was a slow walker. My other son is 4 and excells physically. he can play football with amazing skill and can out run other kids easily. he has no interest. in sitting and drawing even though he is perfectly capable. children excell in what they enjoy and find easy. so it is fantastic that she can do this with ease. keep the learning fun and don't take the G & T thing too serious as it only measures one type of learning style. It doesn't measure learning but achievement which is a disadvantage for some children.

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mimsum · 20/10/2008 21:20

ds1 was talking fluently in sentences well before 2 - he shocked the GP one day when he was about 22 months by telling her it was a very gloomy day outside (and it was )

he was very obviously different to other babies from a very early age - hyper-alert, very little sleep, smiling early, peals of laughter at 3 months, absolutely fascinating to be with but exhausting

he had his IQ tested at 5 (long story but there was a valid reason for it - part of a multi-disciplinary assessment process) and was found to be in the top 0.2% of the population

however, and this is a big however, he's now 11 and though he is obviously exceptionally bright he doesn't apply himself to any of his work really - he's so used to being able to 'get' things instantly that the moment he has to try he just turns off so I suspect that his younger brother (no idea what his IQ is, suspect quite a bit less than ds1 but probably still pretty high) will do much better academically than ds1

ds1 also has tourette's and asperger's which seem to be intimately bound up with the 'giftedness' so as far as I'm concerned the whole thing is very much a double-edged sword

sorry, have rambled there

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Dottoressa · 20/10/2008 21:30

Mimsum - v similar story here, too: before two, we had "intermittent rain", and DS lecturing mums at a coffee morning about things being at the "wrong angle". Now 6, he's just gone off the scale in the CAT tests that his school does instead of SATS. He seems to be the same in music.

I already worry about how he'll respond when he comes across something that might involve him having to try at something that doesn't come naturally.

Sounds fab - but the down-sides of this kind of thing are massive, though. Overall, I find my DD (bright, but not unusually so) far easier to deal with. Now I am rambling, too!

Short version, flipflops: if your DD really does have a gift, it won't go anywhere. Knowing whether or not it's early for her to be doing these things won't help either of you at this stage, so I should just enjoy what she's producing, and respond to her requests/needs without analysing them too much!

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hester · 20/10/2008 21:39

Au contraire, LynetteScavo, my dd (just 3) isn't advanced at anything at all.

I'm very impressed by these tales of bright-as-buttons nippers. Mine still can't draw a circle, a square, or a face. And yes, I went to art school!

She is of course the best kid in the world. Just in slightly indefinable ways...

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MoonlightMcKenzie · 20/10/2008 21:47

Everyone tells me how bright my 22month is. He can say a few words and draw scribbles on walls. He also claps the choir at church and shouts 'more'.

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