why do we have this topic?

[SlartyBartFast]

just wondered?

[notnowbernard]

So we can all take the piss?

[SlartyBartFast]

seems so

[notnowbernard]

I love lurking on them

[saint2shoes]

so people can say how clever their ds/dd is.
no harm in it imo.

[SlartyBartFast]

but people put them down, question them, say the top 5 or 10% of a class are G & T and generlaly belittle it all.
how did it come about?

or is that the minority?

[Tidgypuds]

Can we have a ordinary and average topic do you think?

[SlartyBartFast]

that would be full

my dd is so ordinary, oh mine too

[saint2shoes]

my ds and dd are average, but they are gifted and talented at it

[Tidgypuds]

We could say things like, my DS/DD has the same reading ability as the rest of their class and they have to be bribed to do their homework

[tortoiseshell]

I hate this topic. I have often said on here how much I hate it - some posters only use G&T, even for topics like 'my ds won't brush his teeth' etc (well ykwim). Others think that only parents with 'children on the register' should be allowed to post here. Others see it as a 'boasting area'. And other actually want to use it properly but can't because it is seen a bit as a 'joke' topic, and posting in here can make you seem 'pushy'. As it happens my kids AREN'T on any register. I know they are very bright (esp dd), but wouldn't say they are 'gifted'. They do seem 'talented' at music. But not so extraordinarily so that the rest of the board wouldn't cater for that, and I personally think most of the questions on here would be better in other sections of the 'education' board anyway. Given that a child in one school who is 'G&T' may be average in another, there may well be queries in here that a parent with a similar child might not see, jut because their child isn't on a 'register' even though they may be more able.

Can you tell it annoys me?

[Tidgypuds]

Mine are gifted and talented at being delighful.

[Tidgypuds]

delightful

[Tidgypuds]

Erm yes picked up that you dont quite agree with the G&T

[SlartyBartFast]

exaclty tortoise.
my ds was G & T at primary and secondary but not recognised at the previous primary

[SlartyBartFast]

but he seems pretty talented at being grumpy just at the mo

[notnowbernard]

It amazes me what some people perceive G&T to be, though

To me, G&T is a chess Grand Master, or a musical prodigy, or an exceptional sportsperson

My eyes have been opened to what most perceive it to be

[tortoiseshell]

nnb - there is some crap definition that 'gifted refers to academia, talented to sport/music/art' or something like that. It's rubbish.

It should be called 'more able'.

[AbbeyA]

It depends what you mean by gifted and talented; to me it means something way beyond the normal. There are a lot of parents who think their DC is gifted but they don't have access to a lot of children and have nothing to compare.

[tortoiseshell]

And let's face it, for a truly 'gifted' child, (and I mean a Mozart, a one in a million child), creaming off 10% of children in each school to give them a little bit of extra stretching will do NOTHING.

[notnowbernard]

I imagine being the parent of a truly G&T child to be an exceptionally challenging role

I'd be in a permanent state of anxiety

[lijaco]

Some kids have a very below average reading ability but are very intelligent. i.e. Dyslexia - they are gifted! Not in your top percent though.

[lijaco]

Mozart kids don't need stretching its all there! A genius is bordering on insanity sometimes!

[lijaco]

as for chess I would rather stick pins in my eyes!
Boring!

[tortoiseshell]

lijaco I agree. Which is why calling it 'gifted and talented' is complete nonsense. Because the 'truly gifted' child wouldn't benefit from the scheme much anyway.

[SlartyBartFast]

have to have a nose at the G & T boards