G&T policy

(7 Posts)
Tiggles Sun 03-Feb-13 23:20:36

I think they have written the policy with core subjects as their key indicators ie more able children are able in maths, english or science. These are children that if nurtured correctly will return above average results for the school in their SATS results.
A child could however be above average in a different subject - geography, history etc which however much the school nurtures that talent it won't make any difference to the school's league table. The take this subset of children and call them gifted.
They can then put on clubs etc for the "more able" children to ensure they reach their potential in their SATS etc. whilst justifying to themselves why they are not doing the same for gifted children.

simpson Sun 03-Feb-13 20:44:33

I would have thought a child getting level 4 in KS1 would not be labelled "more able"

They are 4 years ahead of where they need to be.

Niceweather Sun 03-Feb-13 11:05:31
Niceweather Sun 03-Feb-13 08:48:45

Yes, it all comes down to what is meant by "gifted". Top 10%, top 5%, top 1%, high IQ, high achiever? Top 5% in one school might be average in another.

If you do a Google search, you will find checklists that give the differences between a high achiever (remembers the answers) and a gifted learner (poses unseen questions) and a creative learner (sees exceptions) etc.

plainjayne123 Sat 02-Feb-13 21:37:39

But there could be a child who meets more able criteria, say level 4 in everything at end of KS1 but then they wouldn't be gifted because they are more able, but I would say they are of course gifted! Provision is given for gifted and talented not more able. Does this make sense?

Niceweather Sat 02-Feb-13 21:17:51

Perhaps they meant that the child is gifted but hasn't met the criteria (one national level above average) in reading, writing, maths or science. Perhaps they have exceptional abilities in something else: history, debating, engineering, philosophy. Perhaps they are creative, original, writers but have dyslexia which would prevent them from achieving national curriculum levels because of spelling and punctuation. Just guessing...

plainjayne123 Sat 02-Feb-13 20:31:47

Our school has a policy that doesn't make much sense to me, see below, what do you think of gifted definition, can they not also be more able:
Definitions (school adaptation of DfE guidance)
“More able” refers to pupils who are assessed on the foundation stage profile at scale point 9 or at the end of years 1-6, one national curriculum level above average in reading, writing, maths and science.
“Gifted” is the term used to define those children who have exceptional abilities in one or more academic subjects and who have not been identified as “more able” (above).
“Talented” is the term used to define those children who may excel in areas of the curriculum requiring visual-spatial or practical skills (eg Art, Music, PE, Drama)
Identification, recording and reporting
Identification and recording of more able, gifted and talented pupils will be carried out annually by the class teacher in term 6 as part of and in addition to the end of year assessments and with contributions from the parent (see appendix). Assessment information is reported to parents in annual reports
Provision
The curriculum we offer enables gifted and talented children to thrive; this is achieved in the following ways:

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