paracetamol after c section autism fears

[ruty]

another thing to worry about, in trying to avoid the more powerful pain killers after my c section, i agreed to take paracetamol after midwife assured me it was harmless. I took it for a week, whilst breastfeeding, and now i've heard its been linked to autism. Oh god. I'm worried about ds development already [six months] . Anyone have any info [jimjams?]

[bundle]

i had morphine and then voltarol/paracetamol following my c/s and have 2 very bright healthy daughters. god i hate these scare stories. please don't worry.

[beansprout]

Blimey, that's a new one? I thought it was safe, after all it is the one thing we can take when pregnant and it is what we give to them. There is no end to this, is there?!!

[Twiglett]

sorry don't know where this thread started (seems like its the middle of a conversation from somewhere else)

but would like to know where have you heard its been linked to autism (where's the report? can you post a link?) paracetamol is the safe pain relief during pregnancy and as for getting into breast milk that sounds incredibly far-fetched to me


also as an aside it is important to get your pain under control when recovering from a c-section, there are no medals in avoiding taking pain relief designed to get you over the 'hump' of the pain

[Twiglett]

sorry have 2 children via section.. took pain relief as offered, still take paracetomal with DD (still bf at 10 months and totally bf till 6) and they're both NT

[NotQuiteCockney]

I've had a wee websearch - apparently, maybe, for some autistic children, whose autism is diet-related, paracetamol can be a trigger food. (Is autism often diet-related? Is this generally accepted fact?)

But the reason why paracetamol is ok with breastfeeding is because it doesn't go into the milk. (Neither does codeine, or voltrol, which are also commonly prescribed.)

Please don't worry, ruty.

[NotQuiteCockney]

Oh, and like Twiglett, I have had two sections, took all the relevant drugs, breastfed both kids, DS1 is certainly NT, and I have no reason to believe DS2 isn't.

[jampots]

i had 2 csections, first followed by voltarol and paracetamol and the second followed by morphine and paracetamol - didnt even consider there might be a problem

[ruty]

i think its ok for most, i heard that only affects a small amount of children, by ds has had very bad bowel condition for months and i wondered if it was related.

[ruty]

by the way do these painkillers really not enter breast milk at all?

[Jimjams]

ruty- why are you so worried about autism? (thinking about your other thread)

Some reports in the States did link paracetamol use in children with autism- supposedly because of suppressed imflammation. I think it was more of a suggestion than a study though and has never been taken very seriously. Also think it was talking more about the use of paracetamol to treat children's fevers rather than anything else. Have you been on the AiA site by any chance?

Whilst bfeeding ds3 in hospital I had paracetamol, voltrimol, even oromorph (that made him sleep ) and iv antibiotics. Wasn't that keen on the iv antibs but I suppose they had reason to be careful.

[Jimjams]

IIRC I think it was the routine use of calpol follwing immunisation that the authors were objecting to

[ruty]

yes jimjams, i have been on the AIA website. I'm probably being too worried, but his gut problem is such a mystery, and i can't work out why he's developed it. And the links i read about autism and gut problems make me concerned. Too early to tell i know. i'm forever being told to give him calpol when [if] he has his immunizations, i wonder if there is an alternative? Can't face giving him his jabs yet with this problem.

[Jimjams]

AiA are great, but can sometimes be a bit ummmmmm OTT?? (imo) Did you ask Paul Shattock about having a urine test to look for iag? Can they do that yet? I suppose they could test for beta caseiomorph (I know my spelling is wrong!) I kept ds2 gluten fre until 2, just in case and am doing the same with ds3

[ruty]

i will ask him, haven't had the chance yet with the neocate battle. i'm not eating gluten or casein, and i presume this neocate doesn't have either of them in it...

[ruty]

hope i remember what i'm supposed to be asking him to test for! thanks so much for all your advice.

[Jimjams]

I'm not sure whether you can test for IAG this early or when they're not eating gluten- but he'll let you know (can you let me know what he says I'd be interested for ds3).

[ruty]

will definitely let you know.

[highlander]

FGS, another piece of crap research to make mums feel guilty about their birthing choice.

[Jimjams]

In defence of the information given- it was never published as research as such. AiA are interested in the role of inflammation in autism - and there was some speculation that routine use of things like calpol after immunisation could suppress inflamation (bit shaky as I haven't read this for well over a year-but that's how I remember it). If I recall correctly it has been suggested by parents and not published as research- it's just pure speculation (but clearly labelled as such).

Publications produced by AiA and The Autism File often include some sort of "I wondr if x, y and z" are involved. They also publish abstracts and info from recently published research, but they do clearly label the difference.

[Jimjams]

Thanks ruty I would quite like to get ds3 tested if possible.

[ruty]

jimjams, spoke to Paul Shattock today. He said he could test my ds urine for both things you mentioned, but he warned me they are not sure what the average 6 month old's urine is like, so not much to compare it to. Also, practical prob of actually gathering wee which i hadn't thought about! He's sending me the stuff, so i'll see. it might show if my ds has a weakness or vulnerability towards the autistic side, but not sure i want to know right now. he thinks its good i'm not eating gluten or dairy. hope this helps..