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Vagina problems really beginning to get me down.

(64 Posts)
Tittch Sun 02-Sep-12 16:04:41

Have name changed for this as find the whole situation so acutely embarrassing.
The last 9 months I have barely been able to have penetrative sex more than 4 times. Something is chronically wrong with my fanny but god only knows what. I have episodes (basically most of the time) of sore itchy vulva pain, with red raw skin (between inner and outer labia) and at the vagina entrance. Sometimes i want to scream the itching is so bad, sometimes it wakes me at night. Sometimes it goes. Sometimes it is more of a painful, scratchy feeling. Eurghh. I am sorry for TMI...
I live abroad and have been regularly seeing my gynaecologist who is very sympathetic. But I wonder if the practise used in the country am currently living in is less advanced than it could be. She constantly takes swabs, and here is the embarrassing bit, constantly finds an overgrowth of enterococcus faecalis. Basically: poo.

I don't think she believes me that I am not constantly having dodgy anal-then-vaginal sex and/or wiping back to front. OBVIOUSLY i do neither.
I have NOT A CLUE why i have this problem. And she seems not to know how to treat me.

I have tried all the obvious things like cotton only underwear, no g strings, no soap etc etc etc. And I did not have a complicated delivery when my son was born (I know this can lead to similar problems sometimes)

I think I may have had a similar problem as a young child. I certainly had some kind of vaginitis.

The whole issue is really beginning to damage my self confidence, my confidence in my marriage and my whole well being. I guess I am hoping someone somewhere may be able to help me with some advice. or maybe even someone I could see about it in the UK. I feel really really low about it today. Thank you, I am my wit's end. sad

laurenhoppers Sat 14-Dec-13 00:53:38

hello,

I've been reading the comments above, and I have had very much the same issue, I've got soreness in my vagina near the hole bit on the side of the walls and is red and inflammed, it really stings to pee, I've had it for a week now, I thought I just had a bladder infection, as I get them quite alot, i recently was trying sexual activities with my partner no pentration, and start to bleed this brown yellow stuff. I waited couple of days for it to clear and thought it was fine, and after having sex again, the pain was extremely painful, and properly hurts to pee. I've put sudocrem on and it feels a bit better, but still sore and hurts to pee

Anyone help?

Godgivemestrength Sat 09-Nov-13 16:15:22

Tittch,

I've just stumbled across this thread as I have been having exactly the same symptoms as you, been given the same reason (overgrowth of the same bacteria) and 3 months down the line, no doctor seems to know how to get rid of the inflammed, sore and red skin on the entrance/inside entrance of my foofoo.

I know this thread is old...so I'm hoping you eventually found a solution, got well, then forgot to update this thread! Really hope you post back.

Cheers smile

Godgivemestrength Sat 09-Nov-13 16:10:43

Tittch,

I've just stumbled across this thread as I have been having exactly the same symptoms as you, been given the same reason (overgrowth of the same bacteria) and 3 months down the line, no doctor seems to know how to get rid of the inflammed, sore and red skin on the entrance/inside entrance of my foofoo.

I know this thread is old...so I'm hoping you eventually found a solution, got well, then forgot to update this thread! Really hope you post back.

Cheers smile

Minkymum Tue 05-Feb-13 22:40:20

I know I am really late with this, but I had symptoms like yours for years. I kept going to the drs and they treated me for thrush but it never worked. Eventually a GP friend recommended the Genito Urinary clinic ( Gynae were completely useless) otherwise known as the STD clinic. Here i was finally diagnosed with a condition called Desquamative Inflammatory Vaginitis. No body knows what causes it, the only thing that all sufferers have in common is a lack of lactobacilli in the vaginal tract. They gave me a dose of Clindamycin cream and it was bloody miraculous. This is not to say that it didn't come back again, but this time I was ready for it. If you go to your GP and ask for Clindamycin he will look at you like you are a nut as it's an antibiotic used to treat bone infections. Go to the GU clinic and speak to a specialist.

vinetime Wed 05-Sep-12 09:58:40

Hi again Tittch, interesting where you live. Another thing to consider is your low weight (a BMI of 17 is very very low as far as I know). I used to be underweight also and was suffering from a range of minor health probs (including the fanjo issue). A doctor basically told me that being so thin was exacerbating everything as my body simply wasn't strong enough to get over infections and what have you. You say your low weight is 'mainly genetic' - like you, I am naturally slim, but looking back I certainly had some issues surrounding food and deliberately kept my weight low..does this apply to you? Could you try to get your weight up into the normal range?

Forgive me if this is absolutely not the case, but one of the things that helped me was gaining weight. That, plus moving to where the water was better, and also taking a complete break from any sexual stuff (not just penetrative sex but anything in that region!) for at least 6 months. It sucked, but fortunately my partner at the time was understanding and I think it helped clear things up once and for all.

Finally, it's interesting what another poster said about hormonal contraception - I think this applied to me also looking back. Perhaps go back on the pill until you want to get pregnant again (if you plan to)....hope this helps x

TheAgedPs Tue 04-Sep-12 20:54:55

OP here you are- might be info here that wll help.

vulvalpainsociety.org/vps/index.php/vulval-conditions/vulvodynia

TheAgedPs Tue 04-Sep-12 20:52:41

I think you could have vulvodynia

There is a website - support.

I have this- redness, soreness, burning, feel like I can't even wear knickers at times.

Stress brings it on and some food intolerances.

I get some improvement with oestrogen creams.

orangeandlemons Tue 04-Sep-12 19:44:29

Why would they be the same thing? It worked for me sugar and water or not

WhatYouLookingAt Tue 04-Sep-12 18:30:54

Homeopathy and herbalism are not the same thing. I'm not going to argue with you, but if sugar and water cured illnesses it would be called medicine. There is literally nothing in it. It CANNOT affect you in any way, unless you have changed the laws of physics.

orangeandlemons Tue 04-Sep-12 18:27:47

It DID work. It's my fanjo, I know what happened!

At first it got worse and then it just went, in about 2 days. As I said I don't believe much in alternative meds, but that was the only one that worked, whereas, accupuncture, herbalism, food restrictions all failed dismally. I was desperate when I went, and I was initially precribed stuff bu a doctor who was also a medically qualified md.

So don't tell me what works and doesn't. I think herbalism is a load of crap

WhatYouLookingAt Tue 04-Sep-12 18:21:15

its sugar and water, it didn't work. Something might of done, but it wasn't that. Honestly, I'm not being mean, but it is literally just sugar and water.

orangeandlemons Tue 04-Sep-12 18:12:43

It sounds like itching vulva syndrome. That can have sore patches

orangeandlemons Tue 04-Sep-12 18:11:47

Yes, despite my disbelief and Whatyourlookingat's it was fantastic, and has worked 4 times when nothing else touched it. Herbal stuff had no effect at all!

However it only worked for thrush, not the other stuff. The other stuff was more of, first of all recognising what was happening. However I was diagnosed bya guy who was doing cutting edge research on it at the time. Although the trhush was gone, the burning and itching carried on and on, but when I realised what he said, it did feel different from thrush.

It was then treated with the cream I . I would get realy bad flare ups after a thrush attack, but eventually they just went away. But anything which aggravated the nerve endings around the vagina would set it off again. Tampons, giving birth etc

Go get the water tested! How interesting - I'd've thought Moscow would have quite civilised water.
If it turns out you have enterococcus faecalis in the water, I hope for you have not been drinking it, bleurgh!

WhatYouLookingAt Tue 04-Sep-12 18:03:25

please don't waste your time on homeopathic "cures", they are only sugar and water. There are herbal treatments that might help you, but homeopathy is a giant con.

Tittch Tue 04-Sep-12 17:52:00

Orangeandlemons - So in the end homeopathy ended the vicious cycle for you?

Tittch Tue 04-Sep-12 17:50:32

Vinetime!... I live in Moscow. How weird. And you know - when I was just in France for 3 weeks things improved a lot. So that is interesting. The water here is certainly not up to UK standards.

orangeandlemons Tue 04-Sep-12 17:39:11

There are three things which spring to mind, all of which I have had.
1) Thrush that is resistant to treatment and not always detectable in a swab.
2) Vestibulitis which affects the vestibular glands around the entrance of the vagina. This is generally more painful but can be itchy and is related to overuse of anti-fungal creams
3) Itching vulva syndrome, which mainly affects people with sensitive skin/allergy prone. Again can be caused by too mch over us of anti fungal creams. They can all co-exist and or just two of them can.

Vestibulitis is actually meant to be nerve damage. I always had the last 2 for about 5 or 6 months AFTER I had got rid of thrush, as all the nerves were inflamed. However becasue they felt like thrush, I was treated with anti-fungals which eventually led to resistance and then more damage!

The cures: I don't believe much in alternative medicine but homeopathyput a rocket under the thrush where no medical cure would touch it.

Vestibulitis and itching vulva syndrome were treated by a mixed cream called trinaderm I think (bright yellow)

vinetime Tue 04-Sep-12 17:10:02

tittch, sorry to hear you're going through this. this may sound really random but where you are living? I am now settled in the UK but my job took me round the world through my twenties. I lived in various cities and had a similar problem occur twice - when I was in Moscow and when I was in Delhi. Once I left the problems cleared up...my gynae in the UK reckoned that it may have been caused by less than great sanitation levels in the water systems and I was reacting to them....

Sorry, just rereading my previous post: the oral tablet DOES of course work, just not any better than topical treatment -Gah!

Hope you get it sorted smile

Thanku PacificDogwood hope to see the end of it. Doctors were useless, they knew it was a reoccuring bout but gave me a perscription for just one tabletangry
It has been costing me a fortune so i haven't been too great at repeating it and its so hard to get an appointment aswell

Recurring thrush info for pumpkinsweetie - sorry about typo in your name

Canesten cream is very soothing, so may give you a bit of relief without curing you IYKWIM.

Thrush is quite easy to pick up with a swab tbh. Some suptypes of candida are more stubborn and difficult to eradicate than the 'standard' C albicans, but should still be picked up in a culture done from a swab. Nevermind repeated swabs.

If thrush is still thought to be a possibility, the a longer course of oral Fluconazole sometimes works or 150mg taken weekly for several weeks or even months. I would NOT go down that route unless thrush had been proven.

pumpking, if thrush has been found before, get it treated again - either a longer course of oral or topical treatment or repeated treatment like outlined above. If you prefer a cream/pessary (the oral tablet is not 'stronger' and does not work; it's just a personal preference whether to swallow a medication which works systemically or whether to use something more tageted wink), you MUST treat inside the vagina as well as the vulva/perineum/affected skin. There is NO point in just putting cream on on the outside as the 'reservoir' of yeasts that cause thrush live inside the vagina.

Marking my place to look at suggestions later. Tmi but i have a similar problem yo yours op, except i don't have faecal traces. I keep treating myself for thrush, and was examined a while back and was told it was thrush but it just keeps coming back. The itching is horrendeus, especially my vulva and everytime i have sex it is painful and if i dare urinate afterwards it stings like fuckblush.
Im getting to the point where it is putting me off sex and avoid it at all costs unless my dh inisciates it.

Just thought i would try some of the suggestions on here and see if they work for me. I feel your pain op, its awful isn't it the itching, the burning then the pain after itchingblush.

Tittch Tue 04-Sep-12 10:38:01

Thank you Curly, I have taken fluconazole which has not cleared it up, so i think it must be something else? However, Canesten cream seems to have brought the itching down a bit this last week, though not rid it completely. Whilst a relief - that has confused me!

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